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  1. jpollo

    jpollo TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.
    > The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.
    > On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States.The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms. It will never happen!
    > The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws.Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public.We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.
    > This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed. Straight into socialism if Obama has his way...We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).DON'T KEEP THIS - SEND IT OUT TO YOUR LIST
  2. Shooting Jack

    Shooting Jack Active Member

    Jul 29, 2006
    Blackshear, Georgia
    Today they overturned the concealed carry law in Chicago. Is it to be short lived.
  3. jpinto101

    jpinto101 TS Member

    Jun 4, 2009
    Specifically, a treaty cannot override the Second Amendment nor any of the other
    principles encased within the Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution. The
    following excerpt from Article VI of the United States Constitution, is very clear in stating:
    This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in
    Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the
    Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the
    Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, anything in the Constitution or
    Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding. [Emphasis added]
    Read that sentence carefully! Many people do not understand that any law being made
    must not conflict with the Bill of Rights of the United States Constitution. Under THIS
    Constitution, our laws and treaties are acceptable only if they conform to the intent and
    purpose of what has been written in this master document. No law is acceptable if it
    conflicts with or alters the original text. THIS Constitution, and not the opposing United
    Nations Charter, is the supreme law of this country. In these times, however, evil laws and
    treaties have been written and designed to work against those previously established laws,
    which were supposed to prevent tyranny from happening.
    No foreign country nor organization (such as the United Nations) has the power to alter,
    override, supersede, revoke, rescind or block the fundamental principles or the primary
    directives laid down within these precious documents: The Bill of Rights and the U.S.
    ~ 2 ~
    For instance, the Bill of Rights requires the people to be armed (for their own safety and for
    the protection of their country and its principles). The Constitution requires government
    officials to provide the people with a common defense (an army, navy, etc.). All treaties
    made (prior) or which shall be made, under the authority of the United States are also to be
    the supreme law of the land PROVIDED that every treaty is “in pursuance of” (in
    conformity to) true law and right reason – and those principles enshrined in the 1789
    Constitution that put limits on the power of government.
    Our laws are required to promote the pursuance of liberty, justice, independence, true
    freedom and sovereignty. Note that the 1789 Constitution, when speaking of itself, refers to
    its own self as “THIS Constitution,” eliminating any doubt or argument as to its authority,
    supremacy, intention, or reasons for checks and balances. Treaties can only be lawful if
    written in accord to “THIS Constitution”.
    There can be no doubt that “THIS Constitution” requires that (1) “All treaties” and (2)
    “the laws of the United States which shall be made in pursuance thereof” (in pursuance of
    “THIS Constitution”) must conform to the provisions inscribed within “THIS
    Constitution”. This overrules any possibility that a foreign (communist) Charter (such as
    the one initiated by the United Nations Organization) has any standing or authority over
    the government or the people of the United States!
    Neither the United Nations nor any U.S. public official has the authority to require
    compliance or enactment of such an intolerable treaty such as the U.N.’s Small Arms
    Treaty. The Small Arms Treaty must be stopped! It intends to delude, deceive, and
    destroy the American form of government, because without firearms there is no force to
    maintain a government “of the people” -- “by the people” – “and for the people”; nor to
    defend any of the other rights and principles listed in the Bill of Rights.
    “THIS Constitution’s” Second Amendment is the bulwark which undergirds our
    fundamental republican form of government, that is guaranteed to the people of the United
    States (refer to United States Constitution -- Article IV, Section 4).
    The principles within “THIS Constitution” were designed to protect and safeguard the
    people against sedition and tyranny in government. Did you know that a (so-called) law1
    has been passed by Congress ordering our entire military (all branches of the United States
    armed forces and equipment) to be permanently given away to the communist-dominated
    United Nations to be made a part of the U.N.’s world army? Can you picture your future
    whenever the United Nations army is rendered fully armed while U.S. citizens are rendered
    completely disarmed? The objective of the Small Arms Treaty is to begin the process of
    disarming the entire American population, while foreign United Nations soldiers are
    authorized to police the U.S.A. under the up-coming United Nations “world army”.
    Fortunately, our founding fathers did their job! They made us completely protected
    against such circumstances by the manner in which they defined the treaty clause. But we
    still face danger today because John Foster Dulles started the lie rolling that "a treaty
    1 Refer to Public Law 87-297, signed by President John F. Kennedy in 1961
    ~ 3 ~
    supersedes the Constitution, and it can cut clear across the Bill of Rights”! This is not true!
    This false doctrine has been taught in institutions of (supposedly) higher learning. Check
    your Constitution and read Article VI clearly. All treaties must be made in pursuance to
    “THIS Constitution”.
    Repeat: No law or treaty can be valid if it is contrary to the principles listed in “THIS
    Constitution”. It is important for the people to understand the criteria under which all
    treaties must meet and be subjected to before any treaty can qualify as being valid and
    ‘supreme law of the United States’. Unfortunately, the United Nations Charter itself was
    undeservingly ratified as a “treaty”, which is at the core
  4. nipper

    nipper TS Member

    Dec 30, 2007
    and the worst part, you actually believe this shit.....
  5. jpollo

    jpollo TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
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