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Grizzlies!!!

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by Frank C, Oct 25, 2010.

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  1. Frank C

    Frank C Well-Known Member

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    After going twice to shoot(Alaska SS!!) and Salmon fish in Alaska I picked up the book "Alaska Bear Tales" by Larry Kaniut....read it cover to cover on the WAY HOME from Anchorage, should have read it before I got there!!! Today I am reading another bear book, "Death in the Grizzly Maze" the story of this fool Timothy Treadwell the self proclaimed "Bear Whisperer".

    I never saw a bear while spending a month in Alaska over two Julys, and glad I didn't. How do locals who are in the bears back yard deal with the "threat" and who has had a grizzly encounter? Just curious- Frank C
     
  2. Jeff P

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    Frank....

    I kid you not...I've been within 20 feet of browns four times in 10 years.

    1. Hiking 10 miles from my home in Eagle River, on a trail, I had a brown sit up in the tall grass 20 feet away. I stopped and stared at him. He stared at me. I kept walking. I had a pistol, but never thought to draw it. Really.

    2. Fishing on Montana Creek - there was a line of us fishing - combat fishing. Suddenly you hear a rumble through the crowd "bear...bear...bear". A decent sized brown walks out of the woods, THROUGH the line of fishermen three folks away from me and over to a slough and starts catching pinks.

    3. Fishing up on Clear Creek....camped and spending the night. I woke up and butthole was puckering...instinctually, I 'knew' there was a bear, I guess. So I sit up and look UP in the eyes of a brown standing a measured 9 feet from my sleeping bag. I had a .40....again, never thought to grab it...the bear turned tail and ran off.

    4. Brown hunting down on Kodiak, we were stalkning an 8 footer on a beach through some rocks. The guy that dropped us off was watching from the boat and said that we got within 8 or 10 feet of the bear in the rocks before he ran. We never saw or heard him.

    My neighbor across the street was packing a sheep for a guy when they got between a sow and cub - the sow charged and his buddy (my guy didn't have a gun, he was just packing) dropped the bear so close to John he had both of them in the scope at the same time.

    I was goat hunting in Eagle River...me and a guy hiking into the area in the dark and we smell this horrible smell...rotten meat. We're right by the river, so we figure its rotten salmon and press on. We came off the mountain just before dark and had to walk past the same area again. More rotten meat smell....then we see the moose. Bear killed, and not 20 feet away from the trail. Bears often lay in the woods and watch their kills...they'll attack anything that wanders by. Dunno how we got so lucky - the bear wasn't around either time. We got some great pics with the moose once we figured out we were alone....45 inch moose. We camped less than 150 yards from the kill. Never saw the bear.

    Mostly, I don't worry about the bears. I always have a pistol, though - but I guess I'm not smart enough to draw it mostly...

    Jeff
     
  3. Texshooter

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    If you see a grizzly; lie down on the ground, cover your head with your hands, tuck your knees under you and leave your butt sticking up in the air. Why the part about your butt, that’s because the rump is where the prime cuts of meat are and since he's going to start there with you still alive and screaming, you might as well help him out. AJ
     
  4. Frank C

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    Hi Jeff, I figured that you would have a few tales.....I had a run in with a black bear in New Hampshire that ransacked our campsite, way back in the 70's.....of course we were guilty of leaving food all over the picnic table all night, and empties.....I think that was what drew him/her in.....anyway I was awakened about 6 in the morning by my then girlfriend.....she swore she could feel the ground thumping from something outside......after bothering me in my hangover stupor several times I stood up in the tent to tell my buddy "Tony" in the next tent to stop throwing all the beer bottles in the trash.....what I saw was a good sized black, 2 ft from me ransacking the trash, once we started calling to the other tents it grabbed some food from the cooler and screwed....I still use the saucepan for camping that bears its toothmarks....we had no idea that there were bears in NH back then.
     
  5. DoubleAuto

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    Back in the 1960's the Boy Scout troop I was in went camping in Great Smokey National Park. We had our food in the old metal ice chests and boxes down near a big fire. One of the father's was going to stay up all night to feed the fire and run off any Black Bears that came around (we were staying in the big Chimney's Campground). A bear came in as things calmed down in the campground. Three of the fathers that were still up tried to run the bear off but apparently this bear had learned to love human food and lost his fear of humans. The bear took a paw and knocked the top off of one of the old style Coca-Cola coolers with one swipe. The bear started pulling out food and eating it. He then moved over to a heavy cardboard box, stuck his head in and continued eating. All of a sudden he let out a growl and took off up the side of the mountain never to be seen the rest of the night. The next morning we found red pieces of food all along the trail the bear left on. I had taken a large box of "Fireball" candy (back when they were really hot) to share with my fellow scouts. Apparently the bear got a mouthful of the candy and it was too hot for him.

    I went to Hudson Bay to hunt snow geese. I read a book on Polar Bears before I went up there on how cunning and sneaky they were. I did a lot of looking at snow banks to make sure that no bears were laying in wait in them when we walked down to the shoreline to hunt in the morning and evening.

    DoubleAuto
     
  6. kiv-c

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    While in SW Alaska on a caribou hunt in 1999, we came with 1500 feet of a sow grizzlie with two cubs!

    Of course, that was 1500 feet off the ground in a plane...

    Kiv
     
  7. Jeff P

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    Frank...#3 is still the only one that will pucker my butt.

    If you've never had the experience of looking up into the eyes of a brown - you are sitting on your butt on the ground, he's standing on all 4s - its sobering, to say the least.

    It will make you feel REAL small.

    Of course, I had fished all day, so I smelled like fish guts...my clothes smelled like fish. I was using my jeans for a pillow, so it was all right there in my tent with me. Not very bright.

    Worse still, after the bear ran, I laid back down and actually went back to sleep...
     
  8. Auctioneer

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    A guy was out hunting and saw a bear. He took a shot at it and then went down to look for it. While looking he felt something tap him on the shoulder. He turned around and there was the bear. The bear looked at him and said you tired to hurt me. Now the question is do I maul you or have my way with you. The guy tried to fight the bear and was doing a poor job of it. The bear then just through him across a log and had his way with him. Then ran in to the woods. The guy was so mad he went and got a machine gun and went looking for the bear. He thought he saw it and cut loose. Shooting up the wood till he ran out of ammo. He then went and looked for the bear. While he was looking he felt a tap on his shoulder. He slowly turned around and there was the bear. Again he said you tried to hurt me. Now do I maul you or have my way with you? He again tried to fight off the bear and all he did was throw him across another log and had his way again with him. Now bleeding he went to town and bought a flame thrower. He again thought he saw the bear and cut loose with the flame thrower. The flames then burned down a good section. He went down and looked for the bear. AGAIN he felt a tap on his shoulder and slowly turned around and again there was the bear. This time he was leaning against a tree with one paw, the other was on his hip and had one leg crossing the other leg. He looked at the hunter and said "you arn't in this for the hunt any more are you?" he then blew him a kiss. Bears are just mean things.
     
  9. otnot

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    I couldn't count how many bears I have chased away with simple sticks and stones. And for some reason I have never had to kill a bear in self defence.

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    Sticks work better than stones?????????????? (I have a video of a bear throwing rocks at me though)LOL
     
  10. ExFedex

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    Way back in the late 60's I was staying at an elegant quonset hut hotel in Cold Bay, Alaska. Had to offload some beer about two in the morning using a communal men's room. Biggest furfaced creature I had ever seen popped up in the window. Left "track" all the way down the hall and into my room. Such was my introduction to the bears of Cold Bay. One of the Reeve brothers of the famous but now defunct Reeve- Aleutian Airlines was the airport manager there. He was awakened by a very upset Phillipine cook one early morning who had found a bear tearing up the kitchen/dining room. Dick Reeve summed up the situation and put the bear down at close range with a well placed 12 ga. slug then went back to bed leaving the kitchen staff to remove the bear. Its a great place that Alaska.
     
  11. Chugiakshooter

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    I was wondering how close you need them to the front gate of the range,two weeks ago.Jeff if I send you the photo can you upload it?
     
  12. Frank C

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    Jeff, post the photo!! Or chugiak, check your email....I can post it too- Frank C
     
  13. Jeff P

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    Here's the 3 browns going down the road right outside the gun club in Chugiak - outside Anchorage.

    Frank, you'll see the sign for the gun club gate there in the distance. I figure the bears are just about even with the clubhouse.
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  14. Jeff P

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    maybe a little past the clubhouse, the more i look at it. Any way you want to slice it, they're within 50-75 yards of the clubhouse, and probably 70-80 yards from the 16 yard line of trap 3.
     
  15. zeroed4x

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    I'm a conservationist and I truly believe we need to help the bear population and its ability to thrive.


    I've designed hunt clothing, jackets, parkas, pants and other wear that is made from 100% pure all natural beef jerky.


    I've also devised and arranged for free Alaskan hunting trips, Kodiak nature hikes and vacations for all Obama supporters, liberals socialists and democrats.

    I promise to preform everything necessary to ensure a thriving bear population.
     
  16. Frank C

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    Zerod4x......you're hired!! send the first jacket to Obammy, along with a ticket to Katmai!
     
  17. Chugiakshooter

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    Frank I may have not met you but if you look over your sons shoulder I am on the squad, behind him to the right in the picture.I am behind him so you can't see me.If you look on Facebook I am on there,Ben Olsen and also the sporting clay guys took a bunch of pictures this last weekend and I am on the Alaska Sporting Clays FaceBook page and in the Avator picture.
     
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