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Green Dot Data ?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by 635 G, May 19, 2009.

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  1. 635 G

    635 G Well-Known Member

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    Been going thru my reloading inventory. Found an old 1 lb cardboard container of Green Dot. It appears full. I load Remington hulls exclusively. Use nothing but Downrange TGT-12 clones. I use CCI-209 & Cheddite primers. Looking for a 1 oz load @ 1235-1250 with my components. Alliant doesn't have any published data.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  2. JACK

    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    Phil. I bought it as an alternative to PB powder. Evidently the slow burning powders do not get up to speed with the lighter 1 oz lead. All I could find is the standard 20 gr recipe for 1-1/8oz loads and I am going to transpose that recipe onto a 1-1/16 lead charge. The recipe is a 1200 fps and I am hoping to get to 1275 fo rhcp. I will chrono the load, and since you are such a nice guy, I'll put together a 1 ounce load and chrono that too. Prob about 18.5 gr of GD in a hull component concept similar to yours. Remind me.

    Jack
     
  3. miketmx

    miketmx Well-Known Member

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    The Alliant reloaders guide favors Rem 209P primers with Remington hulls and Win 209 primers for AA hulls. They list 1 oz loads with Green Dot and Rem 209P primers with TGT 12 wads @ 8500 PSI.
     
  4. zzt

    zzt Well-Known Member

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    635 G, no matching recipes in the Lyman 5th Edition Shotshell Reloading handbook either.

    For what it is worth, I've never found Green Dot to be particularly primer sensitive. Give the Alliant ballistics department a call and ask them. I could quote you exactly what they will say, but you should hear it for yourself. You'll end up with a good recommendation.
     
  5. Quack Shot

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    I'd start at around 19.0 - 19.5 and see where it gets you. There is a lot of data listed in the older manuals that isn't there now. I'd double check it first, since some of it was removed since it was incorrect. The TGT12 with 20.0 gr of Green Dot and the Remington primer was listed at 1200 fps and 8200 PSI. It went to 1255 at 21.0 grains at 8500 PSI. It hit 1290 with 22.5 at 8400 PSI. I've chronographed a load with 19.5gr Green Dot, Winchester primer, TGT12 wad, 1oz of shot in the STS hull at about 1225-1235 fps. In any event, I'd probably stay under 20.0 grains, since anything more would probably get you well over your desired velocity. I didn't test the CCI209 Primer, but the Cheddite, and Fiocchi were close to the Winchester's velocity. The Remington was about 20 fps slower. These loads were tested at 75 to 84 degrees through a 30" .729 bore barrel with a cylinder (.729") choke or Skeet .724".
     
  6. 635 G

    635 G Well-Known Member

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    Thanks all- Ben from Alliant just got back to me. Will try a load using 20 grs with my Cheddite & TGT-12's.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
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