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  1. Rico46

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    The attached was an article recently written by a Seattle Sportswriter during hsi coverage of the Green Bay - Seattle Playoff Game. If your a true football fan you can understand and relate on just what it really takes to be a Packer fan!

    GREEN BAY, Wis. -- It's easy to hate the New York Yankees if you're a Boston Red Sox fan, and vice versa. The same goes for the Dallas Cowboys and Washington Redskins, Michigan and Ohio State and those originators of the shotgun formation, the Hatfields and McCoys.

    But who hates the Green Bay Packers?

    Steeped in tradition and often viewed through a prism of sepia-tone nostalgia, the Packers have succeeded against all odds in a tiny and remote market, in a 50-year-old (albeit renovated) stadium with aluminum bench seats, in an era of unfettered free agency and corporate greed.

    OK, if you're a Seahawks fan, you're not feeling all warm and fuzzy about Brett Favre and Al Harris right about now. 'We want the ball and we're going to score!' might be old news, but the sting lingers.

    Really, though, do you hate the Packers?

    Not if you know anything about the history of the National Football League. Not if you've seen those grainy images of the 1967 'Ice Bowl' and Bart Starr's fateful quarterback sneak on the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field. Not if you admire the principles on which Vince Lombardi built a dynasty.

    Not if you pull for the underdog.

    In Wisconsin, there is no other option. You are born into Packerdom here. Your great-grandfather cheered for Curly Lambeau and Don Hutson, your grandpa for Paul Hornung and Willie Wood, your dad for James Lofton and Lynn Dickey. Every kid on your block owns a No. 4 jersey.

    What makes the Packers special? Start with the fact that there are 112,015 owners, the vast majority of whom hold one share of stock. Formed in the NFL's primordial mist in 1919, the Packers became a non-profit entity four years later and remain the only publicly owned team among the major professional sports.

    The most recent stock sale, in 1998, netted 106,000 new 'owners' who paid $200 per share (and sent $24 million straight to the team's bottom line) for certificates that are basically worthless. The stock never pays dividends or appreciates in value. But the emotional investment is priceless. When general manager Ted Thompson signs a free agent, the fans can thump their chests and say, 'I helped bring that guy to Green Bay.' And it's true.

    Of course, Bob Harlan, who has run the Packers for 19 years, first as president and CEO and more recently as chairman of the board, has a stake in the team. He, too, owns exactly one share of stock.

    'I paid $25 for my share when I became president,' said Harlan, who is retiring after the postseason. 'When fans call me, they start out by saying, 'Bob, I'm a fan and a shareholder.' They always point out that they're shareholders. I say, 'Well, I am, too, so let's talk.' '

    Did we mention that Harlan answers his own telephone? There is no administrative assistant to run interference, no automated maze to negotiate. You've got a beef with the injured cornerback or the price of tickets, you go straight to the top dog.

    The fact that the Packers can even exist in a city of 100,000 is a minor miracle, due in equal parts to fan loyalty throughout the state and revenue sharing in the NFL. Los Angeles can't support a team but this little frozen outpost can? It's one of the mysteries of the universe.

    It helps that not much ever happens in Green Bay, other than what occurs at 1265 Lombardi Ave. Lambeau Field -- notice, no naming rights -- is the city's corporate and social epicenter, its source of civic pride, its very heart and soul.

    The nearest NCAA Division I football team is 2 1/2 hours away at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and Milwaukee is 115 miles to the south, so the Packers are the only game in town.

    Their reach extends north into Michigan's Upper Peninsula, south into Chicago Bears turf and west clear to the Dakotas (the team had a 40-year head start on the Minnesota Vikings). And that doesn't count the fans who have relocated or the ones Harlan likens to the 'Notre Dame subway alumni.'

    'People call me and say, 'I'm a lifelong Packers fan and someday I'd love to see Lambeau Field,' ' Harlan said. 'They've never even been here.'

    On game days, the far-flung Cheeseheads converge on Green Bay and fill the Lambeau parking lot hours before kickoff. First-time visitors are blown away by the passion, creativity and dedication of the tailgaters. There's nothing quite like the smell of 10,000 bratwursts sizzling on 1,000 grills and the sight of footballs spiraling through 10-degree air.

    The Packers-Seahawks game will mark the 268th consecutive sellout at Lambeau, including playoffs. That's every single game since 1960. The waiting list for season tickets is at 76,800. With an average of 70 fans per year giving up their seats, the guy at the end of the list will have to wait 1,000 years, give or take a few decades, for his name to come up.

    Season-ticket holders live in all 50 states and several foreign countries, including Japan. Domo arrigato.

    The obsession with the team is such that the 10 p.m. TV newscasts in Milwaukee and Green Bay are dominated by Packers developments. The long snapper has an ingrown toenail? That leads the sports report. The price of beer is going up at Lambeau? That's the top story.

    Brett Favre retires? We don't even want to think about that one.

    The Packers have won 12 championships, more than any other NFL franchise, and three Super Bowl titles. The team has sent 21 players to the Hall of Fame. Green Bay city streets are named after former players and coaches, including Mike Holmgren.

    But it's not about all that.

    It's about a unique relationship between a professional sports franchise and its fans.

    It's about people feeling they're a part of something special, something unique, something good.

    The Packers don't need throwback jerseys to evoke their glorious past.

    In all the ways that count, it's still 1965 here. And always will be.
     
  2. esoxhunter

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    Rico46: If I am correct, you are going to the game Sunday. Cheer the boys on for me. Hopefully they will make New England's season end at 18-1. Ed
     
  3. Hipshot 3

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    Rico......I hope you didn't expect me to actually READ all that. Hey man.....work on your brevity! Thanks! [got to say "thanks" or he'll get peed at me].
     
  4. esoxhunter

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    Before I get ridiculed about my prediction of the Pack making the Patriots record end at 18-1. I KNOW they play the Giants Sunday and am sure they will beat them. But I'm looking beyond that and maintain they have a very good chance of beating New England; as long as they do not turn over the ball. Ed
     
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    I hear 4 degrees at game time? Real Packer weather.
     
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    Living in Green Bay, I have to say the article was pretty darn close. I sold hot dogs in the old wooden stadium, I bought my Packer Backer button when they needed money, and I went to the Ice bowl.

    It's getting really nuts around here now. They expect approximately a 5 million dollar boost to the local economy from this game. And hotel rooms are 300 a night, and you have to stay 3 nights. Tickets are going for 500 each on ebay.

    Can't guess who is going to win, but I was surprised how well they did already.

    HM
     
  7. shooterIII

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    Ya and the stupid Cowboys think they can claim to be America's Team, BULL the Packer's are the real AMERICA'S team.
     
  8. finger

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    People elsewhere in football land have no way to comprehend the passion that is the Packers. I am a lifelong fan. When I was a kid I rode the elevator in the old Northland hotel on game day looking for a ticket. I never failed to get one and NEVER paid scalp prices. Last time I was there for a game was the 67 Ice Bowl. Never been so cold in my life. The wife and I will be sitting next to the fireplace this Sunday...going to be about +20 here, and I'm gonna be far warmer than I was in 67! Watching on tv won't be like being there but we will be cheering on the green and gold.

    We went back a couple of years ago and toured the remodeled stadium and the hall of fame. That tour is something no football fan should miss. Geo Hallis has more photos in there than does Vince I think. Puts the NFL hall of fame almost to shame. Oh and you should also know your going through the hall of fame in Green Bay is FREE!

    Its not football in GB, its a religion! bob finger
     
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    Yeah...

    But for all the poor showings the Bears had in 2007, they still managed to beat the Packers' behinds a couple weeks ago, handily.

    Who hates the Packers - Bear Fans.

    Jay
     
  10. Boxer

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    uhhh excuse me but not everyone loves the Pack.....they are the Bears BITCHES
    Head to head action The Bears lead them 90-79-6 The Bears have sent 27 players to the Hall of Fame. and have more Division Titles and playoff games than the Pack......... and so far as Packer weather Ol Brett sure did'nt seem to like the cold in Chicago in December he looked miserable out there. I do hope they beat the Giants on Sunday just so I can see the Pats rip em to shreds in the superbowl Bottom Line PACKERS SUCK
     
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    Ah, yes, the Chicago Chipmunks. We gave them the game so they wouldn't feel so bad about the rest of their miserable season.

    7-9 don't get you to the post season.

    Mash the link and cry in your beer.

    HM
     
  12. Boxer

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    The Packers lost both games on purpose? even the one in Hallowed Lambeau? LMAO
    you be sure to post up on Sunday Night or Superbowl night and we will see who's laughing Don't choke on your brat when they lose
     
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    7-9 sort of don't cut it. Talk all you want. We have the game. Win or lose we got there.

    And the Chipmunks didn't.

    HM
     
  14. Rico46

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    Boxer, last year the Bears went to the SB and laid an egg! The Packers were 8-8 and we still beat the Bears the last game of the year even with "all" their starters. The Bears and Packers are one of the greatest rivalries in football. Until the Bears get themselves a real QB they'll have to settle for being want a be's. Alas the bottom line is Green Bay is playing Sunday in the NFC Championships and the Bears and their fair weather fans will be watching it on TV and crying in their beer.

    Rick Brohmer
     
  15. Boxer

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    you mean Bretts "Final" game last year? Seems to me the Bears gave the Packers their worst defeat ever the first game of the season BTW the Bears made it to the Superbowl last year are you sure the Packers will even make it that far?
    I hope so, so I can see them get blown out by the Pats Your Pal Boxer
     
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    could you repeat that I didnt get it the first time
     
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    yo Rico, Halfmile....how about a little bet on the Pack if they win or lose theit final 2 games If I lose I'll wear a Packer sweatshirt to my club for a days shooting and if you lose you have to wear Bears sweatshirt to your clubs for a days shooting verified by photos of shooters in front of their clubhouse with 5 other shooters are you real packer fans?
     
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    Ok if the Bears win Sunday I'll wear their shirt.............HUH?

    You ain't even in the action, just another wishful thinking Bear fan. Newsflash, It's OVER! (for you)

    If the Packers lose I'll send you a pound of cheese. If they win send me one of your local delicacies.

    HM
     
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    Hitler is a Cowboys fan??? Check this out. (Note-there is some profanity)


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJHb9m4ccmQ&eurl=http://cgi.fark.com/cgi/fark/youtube.pl?IDLink=3339887
     
  20. Rico46

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    To my pal Boxer! I don't count on the Packers going to or winning the Superbowl. After last years 8-8 season if they lose on Sunday they had a better year than anyone could have anticipated. The Packers were 13-3, Favre set nearly every NFL QB record, the coaching staff have built a youthful powerhouse team for years to come. But putting that all aside that is "not" what being a Packer fan is all about.

    Boxer, go back and read the excerpt written by the Seattle Sportswriter. He got it! He understands the mystique of being a Packer fan. Ed, got it! Pat got it! Hm understands it clearly as I do! Boxer, what is it that you and Jay don't understand? : )

    Go Packers

    Rick Brohmer
     
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