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Grand shooting requirements

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by scott k, May 25, 2011.

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  1. scott k

    scott k TS Member

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    What are the Grand requirements for 2010, and this year for targets?
    I have 700 registered targets from 2010, will I have to shoot pentalty if I shoot at the Grand this year?
    Thanks,
    Scott
     
  2. grntitan

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    Yep you need 1000 singles 1000 handicap and 1000 doubles to avoid penality. It needs to be for 2011 season though. 2010 targets were for last year.
     
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    Actually, the target count starts from the end of the last Grand American. So targets shot after August 14, 2010 count toward the total.

    From the 2010 Grand American program:

    "1) Shooters who do not have a total of 1000 16 yard targets registered beginning the first day after the last day of previous Grand American World Championships through the last day of preliminary week of the current Grand American Championships will be advanced (1) class or more at the discretion of the CHC. Shooters with less than 500 registered single targets will be placed in Class B or higher at the discretion of the CHC.

    2) No, participant shall be classified to shoot Handicap events at less than 25 yards unless they have a minimum of 1000 registered Handicap targets in the current year. The 1000 handicap targets must have been registered beginning the first day after the last day of previous Grand American World Championships through the first day of preliminary week of the current Grand American Championships. However, participants who fail to meet Grand American Handicap qualification as described above shall have the choice of shooting targets only from their assigned yardage provided they waive and forfeit all rights to ATA Trophies, options, purses and added Money.

    3) Handicap target requirements will be waived for Senior Veterans, making them eligible for trophies and monies. They may declare 25 yards to assure their eligibility for all events.

    4) Shooters who do not have a total of 1000 doubles targets registered beginning the first day after the last day of previous Grand American Championships through the last day of preliminary week of the current Grand American Championships will be advanced (1) class or more at the discretion of the CHC. Shooters with less than 500 registered doubles targets will be placed in Class B or higher at the discretion of the CHC."
     
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    In the rule book it states Sept 1 of the previous year. Thats why i said that.

    Section XI


    GRAND AND ALL AMERICAN QUALIFICATION

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    GRAND AMERICAN QUALIFICATION

    No participant shall be classified to shoot Handicap events at less than 25.0 yards unless he/she has a minimum of 1000 registered Handicap targets in the current year. The 1000 handicap targets must have been registered since September 1 of the previous year and not later than the day preceding the first day of the Grand American World Trapshooting Championships. However, participants who fail to meet Grand American Handicap qualification as described above shall have the choice of shooting targets only from their assigned yardage provided they waive and forfeit all rights to trophies, options, purses, and added money. Handicap target requirements are waived for Senior Veterans, making them eligible for trophies and monies.


    Shooters who do not have a total of 1000 16 yard targets registered beginning since September 1, of the previous year and not later than the day preceding the first day of the Grand American World Trapshooting Championship will be advanced (1) class or more at the discretion of the Handicap Committee. Shooters with less than 500 registered single targets will be placed in class B or higher at the discretion of the Handicap Committee.


    Shooters who do not have a total of 1000 double targets registered beginning since September 1, of the previous year and not later than the day preceding the first day of Grand American World Trapshooting Championships will be advanced (1) class or more at the discretion of the Handicap Committee. Shooters with less than 500 registered double targets will be placed in class B or higher at the discretion of the handicap committee.
     
  5. scott k

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    so i don't need any 2010 targets?
     
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    No. You need 2011 targets. 1000 each To avoid being penalized. Of course you can still shoot the Grand if you had none but you would be penalized.
     
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    thanks
     
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    Hope you can make it. I always have a good time. Nothing better than 100,000+ people there at once. LOL That was a joke that some will understand.

    Matt
     
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    The 2011 shooting year began 1 Sep 2010. All registered targets shot from that date forward count to the total requirement. Jake
     
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    If I remember correctly the requirements were post differently in last years Grand Program. To allow everyone every chance to get their target due to the $100,000 purse. This year the purse is more money.

    "1) Shooters who do not have a total of 1000 16 yard targets registered beginning the first day after the last day of previous Grand American World Championships through the last day of preliminary week of the current Grand American Championships will be advanced (1) class or more at the discretion of the CHC. Shooters with less than 500 registered single targets will be placed in Class B or higher at the discretion of the CHC.


    2) No, participant shall be classified to shoot Handicap events at less than 25 yards unless they have a minimum of 1000 registered Handicap targets in the current year. The 1000 handicap targets must have been registered beginning the first day after the last day of previous Grand American World Championships through the first day of preliminary week of the current Grand American Championships. However, participants who fail to meet Grand American Handicap qualification as described above shall have the choice of shooting targets only from their assigned yardage provided they waive and forfeit all rights to ATA Trophies, options, purses and added Money.'

    Maybe this question may not be answered until this years Grand Program is posted. I also think this is why Scott posted as he did. Maybe he knows something the rest of us don't.

    Bob Lawless
     
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    So, my son who started with the ATA in Feb 2011 has 400 registered targets so far .. if he does 6 more 100 target events (singles 16 Total 1000) between now and the Grand, he will not be penalized @ the Grand -- am I correct?
     
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    That is correct.

    Shawn
     
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    Mr. Hoover(V10) and i have spoke via PM. He is a delegate as many here know. He is going to check into this subject further as we actually don't know which info trumps which. He stated one would think the Rule book would be the rule to follow but then they printed that in the Grand book for one reason or another. Kinda interesting that they added a little more time to get your targets according to the Grand book. I actually don't think the minimum requirements are that hard to achieve but thats me. I mean is a 1000 each in a year that much? 10 shoots in 52 weeks. Anyway, he will let us know what he finds out and then we can argue its merit as we always do. :)

    Matt
     
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    grntitan:

    It will be Sept 1st as in the rule book. Last year's Grand program was a special situation because of the change in the target year that occurred the year before.
     
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    The language I posted was also in the 2009 Grand program. Which is Grand that had to accommodate the year change.

    It looks like the 2010 program wasn't edited correctly.
     
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    V10:

    I think you're right on the misprint. I'm certain the wording questioned above is a result of the target year change, but you are correct, that would have been the 2009 Grand affected. MUst have been a carryover in the program that slipped through.

    For 2011, it will be from 9/1/10 when it is settled.
     
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    I've just been informed that the 2011 Grand program has the same language as the Rule Book, i.e., targets are counted from September 1. So, crisis averted.
     
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    V10--Thanks for checking on that. I don't think it was a crisis though. LOL
     
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    C'mon Matt. I've been posting on TSC for more than a decade. I know a crisis when I see one. ;)
     
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    This is the reason for my response as stated is above please notice Neil comment about the program for this year.

    Bob Lawless

    http://www.trapshooters.com/noframes/cfpages/thread.cfm?threadid=223373
     
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