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govt wkrs get 70 to 100K yearly + medical

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by slic lee, Aug 27, 2010.

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  1. slic lee

    slic lee Active Member

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    OK jerk, there it is, you now support all fed, state, city,county employees and they earn more money than you do. Their healthcare is better than yours, their dental is not to be believed. 1 out of every three now work for govt. Think of that, YOU pay for them, you are fighting now because you get rationed care and they get unlimited care.
    On TV do u c any repubs anywhere, they r hiding, they dont want to answer questions. Lasr night laura grabed reub whip,she asked, swear the first law u pass will be to remove healthcare laws, 3 times, he refused to answer,red in the face, he looked around for help, finally swore they would. 5 years ago we voted them in and all they did was spend more than the dems, then we voted in the dems they spent more and now back and forth come the repubs again.
    obama now ran around congress, just told ICE, let all illegal aliens except the worst criminals go. ALL OF THEM, 17K were to be deported now staying here and your paying for them so they vote for the dems,whoopie.
    How did al frankin the comedian win, the atty gen of that state, during the election,that day, called the prison warden in his state, I want 1K prisoners brought together to sign democrat voter registration and vote now and he signed them up. Frankin won by 372 votes.
    It wont stop unless we stop it peaceably or forceably. There are no other choices.
     
  2. sernv99

    sernv99 Active Member

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    slic forgot to take his medication today geez, give it a rest....
     
  3. slowdp

    slowdp TS Member

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    Everyone else needs to get just as mad. Giving it a rest is not going to help.
     
  4. Setterman

    Setterman Well-Known Member

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    slic, I feel the way you do, and that is what the tea party is all about. Some republicans (in name only) need to go too. Not sure about 2 out of 3 statement, but 1 of 3 is too much as well.

    Let's watch this fall's election. It will tell us what to expect.
     
  5. sernv99

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    slowdp: a fed worker making 70 to 100k a year has years of experience and they do not give that pay out to some schmuck on the street just getting out of school, unless he/she has a JD or MD then maybe. And fed workers pay for medical benefits just like everyone else. There is no "free medical benefits". If you want "free medical benefits", get your happy ass down to a military recruiter's office and sign up.

    Teabaggers are notorious for spreading the "fed worker makes more than the private sector" b.s. I know they wouldn't say that to a few of my friends' face who served multiple combat tours and put in 20 years of military service and are making" 70 to 100k +medical" as a fed worker as slic suggests.

    Get your facts straight and from an ubnbiased source. You will be smarter in the end....
     
  6. slowdp

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    servn99, military and civilian government works are very different in pay rates. The military person has come a long way in pay since I was in but his pay benefits are in line with the private sector today. Yes, some solders put more on the line than civilians do. Cops and to a lessor degree fire fighters have dangerous occupations as well.

    I think federal, state, county and city when I hear government employee. The government employee pays a small part of his/her health insurance. What they get in return cannot be touched in civilian life except for by the largest corporations. The government employee is paid on par and for the most part better than the civilian employee plus they have a much better retirement.

    The recession is reducing the taxes coming in just like it is doing to the income of the corporation yet government employees are not feeling the recession. Government is upsizing not downsizing. Government employees are getting raises. Total tax is going down so the rate and other "fees" are going to offset the overall reduction. I am paying more every day to support the corporation called government yet I cannot refuse to support it by not buying their product.

    I am pissed. I have lost a bunch of money. I am doing all I can to keep my employees in pay and my butt above water. I am watching an unconcerned government come after me for more at every level - federal - state - county and city. My property tax for my business went up 12% this year. Health insurance is up again due to the requirements of Obamacare. Complying with one of the laws in my state was free for over 25 years of my business operation. Now complying with that law cost me about $25k a year.

    We all need to be pissed. Government must be downsized. Throw out the bums in office and start over. The next election we need to throw the last elected out and start over again.

    Run the illegals out and cut off welfare to the able bodies sitting on the porch. Get the free enterprise system working again. Stop entitlements.

    Neither Repuke or Democrap is getting the job done. We need a third party with strong conservative valutes.
     
  7. timberfaller

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    Boy! I wish my wife(fed employee) made that much and got medical!

    she works full time and has medical taken out of her check. brings home about $27,000.00 yearly.

    What does she need to do to get to that $70,000.00??????? we would both like to know!

    Remove all incumbents from office!!
     
  8. primed

    primed Well-Known Member

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    I work in finance for a large federal agency. I can tell you that the vast majority of employees in that agency make less, much less, that $70K per year. I can also tell you that I pay nothing for federal health care benefits, because I do not take any federal health care benefit plan because they are too expensive for this employee. We are offered dental insurance with the employee responsible for only 100% of the premium.

    "2 out of every three now work for govt." I don't think so.

    But Slic Lee, aside from having the facts all wrong, you're right on the money. Couldn't agree with you more. Who needs facts anyway. They just get in the way of a good story. Same for sobriety. Same with writing complete sentences.

    Peace brother.

    Bob
     
  9. likes-to-shoot

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    Ever notice how jealousy distorts the facts.
     
  10. Chugiakshooter

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    It is easy to get the so called GOVT or City jobs all you have to do is pass the UA tests an you are in.Seems to me that the problem is during the premployment tests where I work that is 99 percent of the problem everyone is responible and gets a good job not a bunch of stonies or meth heads.
     
  11. Bisi

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    Here the clown wants documentation: What are the richest/wealthiest counties in the United States? The wealthiest is right outside DC. In fact the 6 of the top 25 wealthiest are outside DC. This is from “Forbes” http://www.forbes.com/2010/03/04/america-richest-counties-lifestyle-real-estate-wealthy-suburbs.html

    Pay? This is from USA Today - http://www.usatoday.com/money/economy/income/2010-08-10-1Afedpay10_ST_N.htm

    Nearly twice what it is in private industry.

    And what in the hell do they produce? Not a damn thing. They just tell other people what to do and regulate their life‘s.

    Why, why are they above the peasants whom produce products that make life better for other people?

    The ahole government is running a 1.5 TRILLION per year deficit, and yet their glorious non producing employees are immune from any paycuts. I don’t give a damn how much you say they are above us, the math still doesn’t work.

    Detroit is a rathole, and yet they haven’t lost 1/1000 the money the feds have, and yet you get a product from Detroit. And DC is the wealthiest? What do these glorious Federal bastards do other than sit on their collective a**es, and make life harder for the pi**ant citizens?
     
  12. Bisi

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    Want more documentation? Click on the above from CBS site. Yes CBS!!!! CBS the biggest friend a government worker could EVER HAVE, and they even report their friend the fed worker makes and average of $123K a year.

    "Their pay and benefits averaged $123,049 in 2009, up 36.9 percent"

    And yet they are so worth it aren't they? We couldn't live without the products they produce could we. In fact let's list em. The top 10 products DC produces

    10.

    9.

    8.

    7.

    I'm sorry, I can't think, I've consumed too much of that product produced in St Louis - Bud Light. Somebody please, anybody??? think of one thing that DC produces??????????????? Fill in the blanks, please. They deserve their fame, don't let it go unnoticed.!!!!!
     
  13. halfmile

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    I would REALLY like documentation on the prisoners voting for Francken.

    What prison? what Warden?

    I am under the impression that felons can't vote.

    A rant like that makes conservatives look really stupid. Better to keep your mouth shut and be considered a fool than speak and be known as an idiot.

    HM
     
  14. slic lee

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    I MADE ERROR, not 2 of 3 but one woooh, shame.
    Stop your lies, this is a absolutely true story as it happened to me.
    I needed a crown for a bad tooth, 2nd visit to dentist, sat down observed a semi hot looking red head opposite me with a gorgeous smile, beautiful teeth, smiled at her, she smiled back as I said "you have a great smile, beautiful teeth, your so lucky to be born like that.
    I got another great smile, mmmmph,thank you but these are caps. I said, all of them,yes, she said, the dentist made the whole mouth.
    (The dentist told me it would cost me $850 for my one crown, one.)
    Are you that wealthy? No, I work for the Federal Govt and am allowed to have a mouth made every three years, only costs me a small amount of money, Im having this changed now after 4 years, she took out a foto of a model smiling, showed it to me, said, this is what I want now, as the door opened, the dentist said come in.
    I asked him, how much would a full mouth like she has cost me, "about $50K or so.
    Comeon, now tell me Im a liar, tell me this isnt so.
    Tell me again the people in your dept dont make $70K. Im not talking about soldiers so dont be cute.
     
  15. missed some

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    but can anyone name names? I can name a bunch of your so called govt workers who don't make near that, and i am married to one, and she is on my insurance plan. must be a geographic thing.
     
  16. Mapper

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    The pay scales are available by Googling them. Try U S Gov. pay scales. You will find that a GS 15, step 10, makes $129k. That's as high as it goes. A Border Patrol agent, graduated from the academy, makes $50k, if they are still paying GS 11 money. A GS 7 auto mechanic makes considerably less.
    My wife and I are both Federal retirees. Our health insurance costs us about 3500 a year and does NOT include dental, optical, or cosmetic work. We have been informed that, again this year, there will be no COLA.

    This info is for working Gov. employees. Appointees are an entirely different matter. And while I am at it, Fed retirees SS is reduced by about half, even if their SS quarters were earned after or before Fed employment.
     
  17. timberfaller

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    What I have noticed with government employment is that, they the government are the BIGGEST violators of "discrimanation"! Even though they preach "equal" employment.

    What you will find is the people who do the "work" are high school graduates, those who hit the 6 diget wage have college degrees of some sort,become ineffective in their positions, and become unbearable to work for.

    If you have only a high school education, you will only be allowed to advance to a low level position. Easily atained in about 3 years and thats as far as you are going to get. EVEN though you are "smarter" then the morijity of people above you an at times, your own boss! who is making well over the 6 diget paycheck. personal observations!
     
  18. Jerry944t

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    slic lee, I'm not going to call you a liar but your experience with the dental work is nonsense.

    There is no dental insurance that I am aware off, and I'm in a great position to know, that allows new caps or crown in anything less than 5 years and then not for cosmetic reasons.

    I know plenty of government workers and their dental insurance is mediocre. That lady fed you a meal of BS and you ate it.
     
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  20. slic lee

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    You say I ate a piece of crap, OK, I maintain the story is true exactly like I wrote. What reason would that women have to BS me, she didnt say she paid for it, she said her insurance paid.
     
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