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GOP Sen. Jim DeMint: Boehner’s ‘fiscal cliff’

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by midalake, Dec 4, 2012.

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  1. midalake

    midalake Well-Known Member

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    Lions....tigers.....eating their young....OH MY!!!


    WASHINGTON—South Carolina Republican Sen. Jim DeMint, as well as other conservatives, just gave Democrats a shiny new talking point.

    The tea party-backed senator on Tuesday slammed House Republican leaders for the "fiscal cliff" proposal they offered earlier this week.

    "Speaker [John] Boehner's $800 billion tax hike will destroy American jobs and allow politicians in Washington to spend even more, while not reducing our $16 trillion debt by a single penny," DeMint said in a statement. "This isn't rocket science. Everyone knows that when you take money out of the economy, it destroys jobs, and everyone knows that when you give politicians more money, they spend it. This is why Republicans must oppose tax increases and insist on real spending reductions that shrink the size of government and allow Americans to keep more of their hard-earned money."

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  2. Brian in Oregon

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    Once again the tea party shows the rest of congress how to be fiscally responsible.
     
  3. drgondog

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    I am 100% in agreement with DeMint. Boehner is screwing up the situation so badly he has a real chance of losing his role at Speaker.

    Obama does not care if the economy tanks because he believes voters will blame Repubs. I am pretty sure he is wrong. I am also pretty sure that the ONLY leverage the Repubs have over the Dems is to couple any deal with a House vote to raise the debt ceiling.

    Not budging on the debt ceiling will force Obama to make the cuts - and the last time he threatened Defense and Medicare.

    Cutting Defense, including effects of Sequester, may result in loss of 750,000 jobs - as well as kill forward looking R&D programs which is super bad news given China and Russia's 'new' interest in greatly expanding their military capability.

    The voters have spoken - and only the Repubs can prevent massive financial defaults in near future due to explosion of interest rates after a Downgrade.

    Bill

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  4. John Galt

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    Of course President Big Ears wants the economy to tank- it's so he can have an excuse for another stimulus which doesn't stimulate and more "investments" which aren't investments. It's all about directing money to his supporters so the Democrats will continue to win elections. It's also about weakening the country he despises so it will fit in with the socialist utopias in Europe. So far, his plan is working swimmingly thanks to a nation of useful idiots.
     
  5. midalake

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  6. Johnny

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    John Galt, I suspect you are suffering from a psychotic illness. Perhaps manic-depressive with symptoms of paranoia and delusions of grandeur. get help
     
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    Galt is more right than you libs, Obama is a muslim. Study the muslim faith and you will see what their agenda is
     
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    I see our local trolls are still sipping the kool-aid!!
     
  9. John Galt

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    It's easy to get a rise out of Obama's useful idiots. The truth drives them batty.
     
  10. SeldomShoots

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    There are only two ways to reduce or eliminate debt. First, stop spending for anything that isn't a necessity. Second, increase your income and payment on the debt. Sounds like DeMint is half correct with the spending cuts, but without more revenue, you don't get out of debt without paying interest for a long time. How come the majority of republicans and democrats can't figure this out and act on it? Probably, because DeMint is absolutely correct with his statement that if you give more money to politicians, they will spend it, . . . for some program in their district to help them get re-elected.
     
  11. John Galt

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    Liberals think that raising tax rates raises income for the government because they don't understand that people will change their behavior when tax rates get too high. They do and it invariably leads to less income for the government.

    As we know, Obummer doesn't care about revenues, he just wants to take from those who earned the money and give it to those who won't. He's a marxist through and through and that's what marxists do.

    By raising tax rates the government will end up with less money because smart people will shelter it with tax free bonds, overseas investments, tax shelters, etc. What they won't do is invest it into businesses which create jobs. At least the accountants and lawyers who design tax shelters will be happy.

    Not to wory though, the site marxists will always believe that Obama will take care of their needs.
     
  12. Johnny

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    Galt, nice theory, too bad it doesn't work. Look at my graph in the 1% thread. In the 50's during the Eisenhower years, they taxed the rich heavily. Those times were prosperous. The debt stayed constant.
     
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    I would say if the IRS allowed for the section 179 expensing to remain in place, and taxes are raised true small business owners and self employed folks will spend $2-$3 of their own money to save $1 in taxes, and that will help the economy. I know a couple guys that sell trailers and farm equipment, and they have been swamped with sales, as people who actually earn a living by their own hand are scrambling to spend money prior to the end of the year for the tax savings. That certainly helps the economy and manufacturing sector.

    Talking about not renewing the Bush era tax cuts is just a great way that the government can stimulate the economy in the 4th quarter without any expenditure of energy except for the discharge of more hot air from both sides. I'll bet a beer that there is a miraculous compromise that, for the most part, holds the status quo in place around the last week in December.
     
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    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Senator Jim DeMint, a South Carolina conservative and favorite of the Tea Party wing of the party, will resign from the Senate, his office said on Thursday.

    DeMint, 61, made waves this week by condemning the offer of House of Representatives Speaker John Boehner, a fellow Republican, to resolve the "fiscal cliff" stand-off.

    The race to self-destruction continues!!!!

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    Johnny,

    One of the last things you want is for the debt to "stay constant". If it does, the debt service will eat up a huge portion of the national budget. Then what will the Dems use to buy votes?


    ps I assume that you understand the term "debt service".
     
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    Jim DeMint Resigning From Senate to Lead Heritage Foundation
    . Wonder if they are connected?
     
  17. midalake

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    Heritage Foundation: Putting the “Inc.” In “Think Tank.” (Oh, and Oil Money.)


    The Flow Of Money Out

    Beyond the more than $7 million in total compensation paid to top Heritage staff (President Edwin Feulner gobbles up nearly a million of that; other staff names you might recognize include Edwin Meese III, Elaine Chao, Jim Talent), Heritage spends a lot of money on communications.

    In 2009, they spent over $20 million on direct mail. They spent $247,000 supporting program work in foreign countries, and $7,500 to support the Intercollegiate Studies Institute, an organization that disseminates Libertarian principles on college campuses.

    They also spent $3.3 million on “marketing and advertising” with Premiere Radio Networks. Premiere, you will not be surprised to learn, is the radio home to Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Fox News Radio and Glenn Beck.

    It’s important to keep in mind that this is ostensibly a think tank - one that spends tens of millions of dollars on spreading its message.

    ENJOY

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    Sort of like all the Liberal organizations that spread their words, only in a upper class organization.
     
  19. CharlieAMA

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    Obama has spent four years nuturing his political and social agenda. He didn't put any effort into an economic recovery. The only people that have benefited in his regime is his family, and his movie projectionist. Spend ,Spend, Spend.
     
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    McConnell’s Floor Flip-Flop Could Cost GOP


    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell was for a vote to grant the president power to hike the debt limit before he was against it.

    Within a matter of hours on Thursday, the Republican leader was furiously backpedaling from his own move to force a vote on President Obama’s request for unlimited future borrowing authority. McConnell demanded such a vote in the morning, but by afternoon Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., had called his counterpart’s bluff and pressed for an up-or-down vote himself.

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