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Good read on renewed gun ban efforts....

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, Jan 14, 2011.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Brian: I agree totally with this guys take on gun violence and the inability of legislation to eliminate physical threat. However, I have to take exception with one point.

    This guy has no real understanding of firearms. So all of his talk is purely theoretical. In this case it happens to be right and we all know it, but it is still purely theoretical.

    The way I know that he has no first hand knowledge of guns is his continual reference to "clips". Magazines are not clips. The term clips refers to "stripper clips" that clip cartridges together to be insterted into a magazine. Clips are not magazines, and vice versa.

    Knowledgable gun people use the correct terminology.

    This same reference is true of just about every politician and pundit in the gun control camp. They have no first hand knowledge of guns or shooting.

    They only have knowledge of statistical theory pertaining to guns, and since they have no first hand experience with guns, they are affraid of that which they don't understand. This is to be expected as it is basic human nature.

    The reference to "magazines" as "clips" is pervasive in the left wing media, and if you watch a little MSNBC you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.

    They are fools masquerading as "intelectuals". Bill Maher is good example.

    People who think they are really smart, never are.

    My saying goes "If you think you really know whats going on,,, You're probably full of shit!"

    This statement becomes an obvious truth in discussions about gun control.

    Randy
     
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    The use of the word "clip" for "magazine" is not something unique to those without knowledge. There are plenty of gun owners who will also use the word clip, even though they know the proper term is magazine. It's a form of gun slang. Should the word magazine be used instead? For legal purposes, yes, but I'm not going to get bent out of shape if someone says clip instead.
     
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    I don't either, when I know somebody knows something about guns. I only take exception when it is somebody like Chuck Schumer or some other Left Wing Nut that thinks their vision of how the country should be is more correct than mine.

    Experience has shown over and over that the left wing view of how society should function is not a valid model.(Obamacare is the most recent?) It seeks to "change" for the sake of "change itself" or to cure a perceived problem, but never deals with all of the unintended consequences, like the reduction of actual freedom of a free society by the imposition of crippling rules that are unreasonable at best and down right un-American at worst.

    Most of the time just leaving well enough alone is the correct action.

    A quick look at airport security since 9-11 and even more so after Underwear Dude shows nothing more than infliction of regulation on people that don't need regulation. Politicians just feel they must do something to "prevent this from ever happening again" When the proven fact is,,, there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop everything.

    It is recumbant on a free societies members themselves to limit "shit happens" to being the exception, and not the norm.

    Randy
     
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    Those consequences are not unintentional. It's part of the socialist plan to destroy America as it was, and form it into something else. Chaos and "unintended" consequences play right into their hands.
     
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    The problem is that we never seem to want to address the "Root Cause" of problems. We address "Symptoms" and pass laws and regulations that infringe on all of society but never truly solve the problem. Unintended consequences result and we still have the same problems.
     
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    Stating that someone doesn't know anything about guns because they use the term clip versus magazine is a little far out. I've sold hundreds of clips and most people that come in the store ask for them by that name. I don't remember his name but a military instructor I had told us magazines were for reading in the john and clips were for your weapon. LOL I think most any place you go you will find either as accepted terms. Jackie B.
     
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