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Good powder for caps?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Tron, Aug 10, 2013.

  1. Tron

    Tron Supporting Vendor Supporting Vendor

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    I'd like to load up some 7 1/2's for caps and I'd like the fps to be around 1250. I load only Remington STS hull and use Claybuster wads with Win 209 primers. I've been using 700X forever, but would like a powder that's designated just for caps.

    Any ideas???
     
  2. grntitan

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    Green Dot
     
  3. oleolliedawg

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    Green Dot or PB!!
     
  4. Tron

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    Ok, how much of it to get a 1 1/8 load to 1250??
     
  5. vdt

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    24 grs. PB...Fed 12S4....Win 209....Fed Golden Metal Hull..1 1/8.7 1/2 Magnum shot
     
  6. grntitan

    grntitan Well-Known Member

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    You can use that Remington Hull with the W209 primer and 22 grains of Green Dot but you need to use a Remington RXP12 Wad. Thats 1250 FPS and 9400 PSI.
     
  7. Tron

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    Why do I have to use the Remington Wad?
     
  8. grntitan

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    Because its the only recipe I have listed using the W209 Primer. If you change to a Remington Primer you can use CB 3118 12 wad to get the 1250 FPS with 21 grains of Green Dot. You could also then use a Fig 8 or copy with 21.5 grains which would also be 1250 FPS. In addition, when using a Remington primer you could use the WT12(orange) wad with 22 grains Green Dot to reach the 1250 FPS.

    Alliants website has a great plug n play reloader guide.
     
  9. Setterman

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    Tron, Try 20.5gr of Green Dot, AA/Chedite primer, AA or STS hull, DRA-12 wad.

    The Downrange DRA-12 wad is made shorter than a factory AA wad. It allows the load to fit in a AA hull, but it also loads well in an STS. 1225-1230 fps.

    Rosey
     
  10. missemucho

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    I also vote for Green Dot; try 21 grains with a DR F8 wad in the Remington hulls.
    Right around the speed you want without the recoil of some of the other powders mentioned. IMHO the best Handicap powder out there.
    John
     
  11. bkt514

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    A bit more pricey, but let's not leave out International Clays by Hodgdon Powders....clean burning and great for 1 oz. loads as well. I use Federal Gold Medals, Federal Primer and a 12SS wad (clone).
     
  12. Brady509

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    PB or Sr7625 for me. If you switch over to a straight hull such as a fed estate or kemen hull your pressures will be lower across the board.

    1 1/8 oz. PB, Win. 209 CB 1118-12, 24 gn, 8,800 PSI 1250 fps

    1 1/8 oz. SR 7625 Win. 209 WAA12, 24.5 9,500 PSI 1250 fps

    Straight off the site my friend. It's a little more spendy but for me its clean and low felt recoil. Not to mention it ink balls targets.

    Brady
     
  13. stokinpls

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    Green Dot. I use 700X for all, but HCP. Love 'em both.

    Bob Falfa
     
  14. Oregunner

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    Gren Dot, Unique, International, Universal, all are good powders for this. You said you are using Clay Buster wads, but not which one. That makes a difference. Mark
     
  15. BigM-Perazzi

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    Joe, look up the loads for Winchester Super Handicap powder.

    I found around 20.8, or so, grains, ww cases, win 209 primer, appropriate downrange 1 1/8 wad,

    Ran right around there.

    Jim
     
  16. bling 27

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    If you think green dot, pb, 7625, inter. clays, are good, you should try 20/28 powder from Alliant. 1 1/8 oz. shot, win. 209,fig 8 wad, 23grs of 20/28 powder,in a Remington hull........1250fps....7370psi This load is soft on the shoulder and on your wallet compared to pb or 7625. It will destroy targets from 27yds +++++++++ Try a #1 of it, I think you will be glad you did.
     
  17. Ajax

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    Tron,

    Some good powders out there for that range. I've tried a lot of them over the last 40 years. For the money and efficiency it's hard to beat Green Dot.

    Ajax
     
  18. timb99

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    Hodgdon Titegroup is good, but it might not go that fast.
     
  19. Scott Johnson

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    Neil Winston did tests on lots of powders and settled on Green Dot, said he had a denser core if poor memory serves me right. The little I tested it agaisn't Tight Group, Neils opinion showed the same results as mine, Green Dot had a slight edge on denser core and more pellets in a 30" circle @40 yards. YMMV but I like 20 grains Green Dot for 27 yard caps. Have shot faster loads (21 grains) but have found correct shotgun pointing is better than faster loads (less wear and tear on me also). 1180 to 1200 f.p.s. will break any 27 yard bird very well, example, two TOP Western shooters, Denis Bringleson 2 3/4 dram STS # 8, Stu Welton 3 dram STS # 7.5 both are very, very good Caps shooters and they are shooting 1150 to 1200 f.p.s. If it works for them, my simple mind does not want to reinvent the wheel. Scott
     
  20. Shooter R

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    You may not find it in a book, but... using what you've listed, about 21 grains of green dot should work very well.

    I don't think I have a death wish mentality, but believe the diff between Rem and Win 209's in a non-max load does not amount to much.

    In the Alliant reloading data info pages, they seem to think if you use a Rem hull you will just naturally want to use a Rem primer, so they have about one load using a W209 in a Rem hull. I haven't seen a Rem primer for sale this year.

    Tron, you did a great job welding some knock down tabs on my auto. Thanks!!!