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GOING BACK TO A PULL TRIGGER FROM A RELEASE?

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  1. Trap2

    Trap2 Well-Known Member

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    Have any of you gone back to a pull trigger after shooting a release for any period of time? I have shot a release for the past 6-7 years and am seriously considering going back to a pull if I can do it. I was never a flincher to begin with, I just went to a release because I bought a gun with one in it and liked the way it felt to shoot a release. I tried about 4 rounds with a pull last year at a shoot and seemed to have trouble every now and then not being able to control the trigger. It didn't feel like I was flinching, but about 2 targets in a round I would sort of pull off the target when pulling the trigger. The pull triggers I tried were set at about 3 to 31/2lbs. I was wondering if stepping up the pull to about 41/2 to 5lbs might help in getting settled back into the pull triggers, or am I better off just staying with the releases? Any thoughts from those that have done so? Thanks....Dan Thome (Trap2)
     
  2. JBrooks

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    Dan,

    You should go back to a pull. Your fellow competitors will appreciate your efforts on their behalf.
     
  3. KEYBEAR

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    Good luck I like you started shooting a release because I got one with a gun trade . Now years later a pull just don,t work anymore . The bad news is your now flinching and NEED a release .
     
  4. Bluzman98

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    I went back to pull with no problems.

    Jim C
     
  5. Release Trigger

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    Dan,

    Like you I have been shooting a release for 7-8 years and no way can I go back to a pull unless I shoot gun down.

    I have 4 Trap guns, 3 with release-pull and one Double release and have no trouble going from one to the other EXCEPT going back to pull-pull then all hell breaks loose.

    The trouble seems to happen with a mounted gun if I shoot Skeet or Sporting with gun down, no problem but with gun up, look out.

    A few of my shooting Buddies recommend a trip to the "SHRINK" but then again I can still beat most of them even with my mixed up brain.

    But then Life is supposed to be fun isn't it ?

    Release Trigger...
     
  6. lancelot

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    Hi Dan,

    I have, from time to time, gone back to a pull trigger. I'll shoot it for a couple of months, and then I'll catch myself waive the barrel on a target or two in a round. I go back to the release and don't do it anymore. It's just more comfortable for me to shoot the release.

    Maybe you should give it a try, and then judge the results.

    Best of luck, Ron Ireland
     
  7. miketmx

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    Dan, I started shooting a Release in 1990. I didn't have the "I can't pull the trigger" type of flinch but I would stop the gun and then pull the trigger sometimes jerking the forend down. With a release trigger, the 2 actions of tracking the target and shooting the target just blend into one motion and I don't even know when the shot goes off. My latest problem is on very erratic targets with too much follow through like I am arm swinging if I don't get a good look at the target. I never know when it will happen next and I might have to go back to a Pull trigger to correct this. Last time I tried a Pull/Pull in Doubles I broke 77 right in the face. Funny I could pull the trigger on the first bird but make a spastic jerk on the 2nd bird. Good Luck and keep us posted on your results. I'm looking forward to the Inland Empire shoot.
     
  8. Trap2

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    Thanks everyone for your input. I may just be dreaming, but I honestly believe it is possible to go back to a pull trigger if I didn't have a flinching problem to begin with. I also think that it will probably be necessary to use a heavier trigger pull weight than I was used to in order to accomplish this. I was always a "squeezer" not a "slapper" when using a pull trigger and a heavier pull weight may be necessary for me to get re-accustomed to the pull trigger.

    Phil Kiner, if you read this thread, could you please give me your thoughts on doing this by emailing me at trap2dan@yahoo.com.. I can't remember now, but I seem to remember it was either you or Frank that subscribed to going to a heavier trigger pull to try to eliminate the ocassional flinching problem some shooters experience. Do you think it's possible to go back?

    Thanks.......Dan
     
  9. Hap MecTweaks

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    Dan, for what it's worth, Drew Waller of Ohio shoots both in competition. He's a terrific shooter too. He's the guy I'd ask that question of and get his views. Hap
     
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    Hap.......How do I reach him?.....Dan
     
  11. Hap MecTweaks

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    Dan, Dennis DeVault will have Drew's home phone number. Give him a call @330-455-6070, that the shop number. His cell is 330-936-5102 Hap
     
  12. Trap2

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    Thanks Hap.....Dan
     
  13. Joe McGorman

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    Trap2, I went to a release in 2002 because I thought it would be more natural not to tighten up with the "squeezing of the trigger" and just let it go. Switched back to a pull trigger in 2004 im my singles but kept the release/pull in my doubles gun(liked being cat quick on my first shot of dbls) and kept this routine until 2007. In the Spring of 2007 thought that I would switch back to pull/pull in my doubles gun to keep things simple, found out that I could not squeeze the trigger on the first bird an average of 4 out 50 shots in doubles. So I went back to release/pull in doubles. At the Grand this year I started flinching so bad in my singles that I had to have a release put back in my singles gun because my subconcious would not allow me to squeeze the trigger. So I guess it is up to the individual on how they will react to switching back and forth, they say the average trapshooter develops a flinch about 12 to 14 years of steady shooting but I do not know for sure.

    Hope I didn't bore you. Joe Flinch McGorman

    P.S I was not a flincher when I switched to a release
     
  14. snowbird

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    I did it for a couple years but I like the release better and went back.

    Terry.
     
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    Thanks Joe and Terry.... I will probably end up back with the releases but I just have to try the pulls to see if it's possible to go back. Unfortunately, my scores with a pull trigger were much better than they have been with the releases. While I shoot decent, and even sometimes very respectable scores with the releases, I think I was more consistantly shooting good scores with the pulls. It may be all in my mind, but you know how it is with a trapshooter: Once you get it into your mind that doing something different may help your scores there is no turning back until you try it....Dan
     
  16. jimbotrap

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    Dan, although I cannot answer for Phil Kiner, he told me he hated a release and adjusted (temporarly) by increasing trigger pull. After a time that did not work. He finally went to the release permanently. He said he is very happy with the results.

    I personally have tried, after an extended layoff, to go back to the pull. Worked for a short time, but alas. Once I went to the double release I believe I would stay, even if I could shoot a pull. - Jim
     
  17. Chipster

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    Went back to shooting a pull. I can flinch just as well w or w/o a release. Shoot a little skeet now and then and the pull works better for each.
    Curtis
     
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