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German answer to the PFS

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by DTrykow, Jul 17, 2009.

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  1. DTrykow

    DTrykow Active Member

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    Check this new piece of German Engineering. Just came out this month. I emailed them for a price. Gotta be big money. They are a very highend pistol grip maker. Most European competition guns have Nill Grips on them. http://www.nill-grips.com/Shotgun-Stocks_119.html Dave T.
     
  2. Guard Rail

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    That thing looks like it will shoot. It also looks like it costs more than most shotguns.

    BK
     
  3. Hauxfan

    Hauxfan Well-Known Member

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    Looks good.

    Hauxfan!
     
  4. cubancigar2000

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    sure is better looking than a pfs but same concept
     
  5. Neil Winston

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    Boy, that's for me! Why it even mentions "if a shooter has a very pronounced thorax." That's a little roundabout even for a German, but I think we all understand what he's getting at.

    Neil
     
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    Like most German products, it will probably require peiodic maintainance at a dealer.....at $500 a pop!!
     
  7. DTrykow

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    Hey Neil; How do you think their pistol grip "postively effects recoil"? Quote: (Thanks to this ergonomic moulding, the light palm swell, finger grooves and a shaped horn for the back of the hand the hand always holds the same position, which positively effects recoil characteristics and leaves the trigger finger always in the same position relative to the trigger). Does that benefit the second shot in doubles? Dave T.
     
  8. skeet_man

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    Sent them an email as well to see if they have any plans on offering a left hand configuration, since this will be available for a couple guns that the PFS is not (namely the DT10 and Blaser F3).

    Also, correct me if i'm wrong, but there doesn't appear to be any recoil reducing characteristics to this stock...
     
  9. wbill

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    It says nothing about being a recoil reducer like the PFS. Only a modular adjustable stock
     
  10. Jollytrapshooter

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    Doesn't matter if it is better than a PFS...If it costs $5000 to put it on your gun, they're going to have a very limited customer base. My 2 cents... Josh
     
  11. Hauxfan

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    wbill, if you look at it, you can see the built in reducer in the stock. Much like a PFS, but still quite different.

    Hauxfan!
     
  12. DTrykow

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    skeet_man: Add does say Left hand will be available. I'm a lefty as well.
    Dave T.
     
  13. ccw1911

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    I don't think it has a recoil reducer in it, my understanding is that Europeans don't go for our spring and hydraulic type stocks anyway. If it does move back that saddle horn lol might be rough on your thumb or nose. It does look cool and Nill makes some good handgun grips.
     
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    Yep, +1 on the thumbremovernozeknocker. Anyone ever shoot a Rem 870 3 1/2" Turkey Special with a thumb hole stock? It's just a little under two years since I touched off a 3 1/2 incher in mine, and my right thumb joint is still sore. The stock is for sale and in the box if anyone's interested in it, at a good price.

    I'll pass, thanks.....mike
     
  15. joe kuhn

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    The ultimate try stock?
     
  16. Rollin Oswald

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    It is a good looking stock but I wonder about some of the adjustment ranges that are available. The butt plate (butt plate - not a recoil pad?). Drop at the heel adjustment is great but the cast adjustment is very limited. There also seems to be no cast at the toe adjustment possible.

    LOP adjustment should be very adequate for many shooters as far as LOP goes.

    The range of drop at the comb adjustment seems less than ideal, less than 1/4" in both cast and drop from the "normal" or "neutral" position.

    Further, I wonder where the end of my thumb (large hands) would end up. What is the purpose of the ramp forward of the hand. It's too far from the nose to stop a dripping nose. What am I missing here?

    Great 'looking' stock, though.

    Rollin
     
  17. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Just don't mess with my thorax. It took years to get fully developed.

    HM
     
  18. ccw1911

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    LMAO HM, I have a lot of money invested in mine too.
     
  19. maclellan1911

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    I like the pistol grip. Also notice it is a lot closer grip to trigger than most factory shot guns. Which I feel is always a bit on the long side
     
  20. skeet_man

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    Some more info if anyone can read german:

    http://www.ergosign.com/index.php?id_navigation=8
     
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