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  1. 3dram8

    3dram8 Member

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    $1.649 in SW Michigan. ....Rick
     
  2. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Why isn't Bush being blamed for these low gas prices?
     
  3. H82MIS

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    how about 1.35 in st.louis mo,,,,,
     
  4. Jawhawker

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    regular=1.63 central KS
     
  5. 1dudley

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    159.9 in Columbia, SC.
     
  6. mixer

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    Around $2 for 87 in Ft. Lauderdale.

    Eric
     
  7. jerryw

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    $1.57 in Amarillo, Tx

    Jerry Walker
     
  8. X-FACTOR

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    How much does 10% or more of ethenol lower the gas price and how much
    do you feel that it lowers your mpg.
     
  9. Allen-MX8

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    $1.60 in Moberly Missouri

    Allen
     
  10. hoggy

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    Just goes to show that there is absolutely no gas shortage that isn't created but for one reason and that's to drive the price up. There has never been a good reason for gas to be over $2 a gallon here in the US.
     
  11. phirel

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    World wide demand decreased. Supply increased. Prices went down. Is this a surprise? Consumers have as much influence on prices as suppliers.

    Pat Ireland
     
  12. hmb

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    How come the price of shot didn't drop like the price of gas. HMB
     
  13. TjayE

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    Pat, you forgot to mention that they are adding ETHENOL to our gasoline to help bring the price of gas lower. This also lowers the feul economy MPG of your vehicle. Tom
     
  14. 5spd

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    With 10* ethanol in the gas at a few stations that I use I still get 36-38 mpg., the same with gas with no ethanol, it does not effect the mpg in my car. Same with my truck, no difference in mgp use.
    $1.49 in Cheyenne.
     
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    $1.69 for regular here in central N.C.
     
  17. skeet_man

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    2.11 is the cheapest i've seen yet in rochester ny. I thought it'd just about leveled off @ 2.63, but it seems to just keep going down :-D
     
  18. Recoil Sissy

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    TjayE:

    Suppliers have been mixing gasoline (90%) and alcohol (10%) for for a long time. Finding a 100% gas is a challenge in my part of the world.

    hmb:

    As the price of a commodity changes, retail prices for products based on the commodity change as well. How fast retail responds is determined in large part by the length of the supply chain, The longer the pipeline, the long it takes before consumers see the impact.

    Compared to the massive amount of motor fuels we use, there is relatively little storage capacity in the system. Elapsed time from when a barrel of crude comes out of the ground and when the refined products from that barrel are delivered to a retailer is short. That's why a disruption anywhere (hurricane, refinery explosion, etc.) results in an almost immediate price change.

    By comparision, lead has a long shelf life and occupies very little storage space. The turnover rate between lead production and ultimate consumption of lead products is much slower. Nevertheless, in both cases, when the higher (or lower) priced stuff is gone, it is replaced by cheaper (or higher) priced stuff.

    hoggy:

    In the U.S. economy price is determined by supply, demand, and production costs. During the late 60's or early 70's the federal government - in its infinite wisdom - set price caps on gas. The caps were the government's response to inflation. Inflation was of course, also created by the fed's.

    Truth is, price caps didn't mean poop until the cost of production started to approach the capped price. Production then slowly ground to a halt. If you're old enough, you may remember gas stations running out of gas and long lines of motorists at other stations waiting and hoping to get some before THAT station ran out.

    I remember a tv interview of a Texan wildcatter. When asked about shortages of heating fuel stocks in the northeast states, his less than diplomatic response was, "Let them yankees freeze". It would have been more informative and certainly less inflamatory if he had responded, "I didn't create this shortage, the feds did. Why would you or the feds expect me to produce at a near zero rate of return?"

    OPEC has manipulated crude production as long it has existed. Member countries keep whining about fifty-some dollar per barrel prices. They also keep crabbing that they are going to drop production by at least a million barrels a day to force prices back up.

    The problem for cartels is that they are voluntary organizations. OPEC members each have a production quota which they agree not to exceed. They always cheat. The strategy is "let other members drop production to jack up prices and we'll sneak extra oil on the market when they do."

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    I filled up Sunday at $1.68. Price dropped a nickel on Monday.

    sissy
     
  19. TjayE

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    5spd, I can guarantee you that with 10% ethenol added to gasoline, you will get less MPG than with gasline with no ethenol added. TjayE
     
  20. Tripod

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    The folks that think it was all a big gouge will still think that. They probably voted for Obama cause he is gonna fix everything
     
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