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**FULL CHOKE FOR SINGLES???

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by ismah, Aug 9, 2012.

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  1. ismah

    ismah Member

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    I'm thinking of changing from a full to a modified choke for singles. I'd like to hear some input on this monumental decision before I take the step. Bill B
     
  2. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    I use what is supposed to be a 0.015 (0.035" being full) and it will make them disappear. I try to shoot them on the way up, if that matters.
     
  3. hmb

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    If you do that your average will go up and you will have to compete against the big dogs. HMB
     
  4. miketmx

    miketmx Well-Known Member

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    I use .028 constriction for Singles because I like to see smoke and I know for certain that a lost target is Not caused by slipping through a loose pattern. Years ago when I did a lot of patterning and counting holes, I discovered that the more open choke tubes merely gave a weaker core pattern without contributing any useful pellets to the outer fringe. I use .036 constriction for long yardage Handicap.
     
  5. johnpe

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    It's my experience that there isn't a whole lot of differnce between 0.015" and 0.035" constriction if you are using hard shot or shells such as AA's and STS's. A few years ago, when light modified became all the rage, I patterned two of Briley's 0.015" chokes in two different guns. Both patterned essentially the same - right at 70% which is the definition of full choke. That's a lot tighter than the term "light modified" would lead you to believe. By definition light modified should be about 55% if 60% is the definition of "modified choke". Using a 0.730" bore, Winchester's factory drawings for "modified" show a constriction range of 0.008" to 0.012" - and this was in the days of chilled shot. A fellow from the UK published an article in the year 2000 where he took all of the so-called after market chokes of "quarter choke" -essentially 0.010" or Improved Cylinder - and shot a set of one good load through one gun with a 0.740 barrel. He counted the holes in a 30" circle and reported the results. Almost all of the 0.010-0.011" chokes patterned improved modified at about 65%. A Browning choke labled as IC measured 0.004" and patterned better than 50%. My thought is that if you are going to shoot a full choke even though it's called something else, then shoot a full choke and get all of the pellets you can in the same pattern area.

    Johnpe
     
  6. Barkingspider21

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    HMB,

    You must be one of those sandbaggers we have in the sport. I have only been shooting Trap for 3 years I started out with a CZ O/U then got myself a BT 99, then went on to a Browning XT Trap, I now back that up with a BT99 Grade IIILast Jan. at the Southern Grand I was classed as "B" class. I shot 200 singles with 2 AAA and 2AA Class shooters, I was not intimidated and shot a respectable 186, no record to be sure but I don't sandbag either, I would be more than happy to compete with Leo Harrison or Harlan Campbell or anyone else on the trap field, I welcome competition, I will be 73 years old on Monday of next week and I am looking forward to the coming year. I believe that each one of us should compete to the best of our ability, if you don't win this time, try harder next time but don't be a sandbagger, it promotes losing attitudes. Woody Sullivan Oviedo Fl.
    P.S. I use either a full or extra full choke with 1 oz. of#8s.
     
  7. luvtrapguns

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    Mostly I shoot new AA's, 1 1/8 oz of #8. Using an .020 in my Ljutic and .018 in my BT-99 will grind them up into smoke balls every bit as impressively as the so called "FULL CHOKE". On paper I get very uniform patterns with a slightly larger kill diameter. I am not good enough to center every shot. If I were choke would not matter. I do use .035 from the 27yd line. Marc
     
  8. Doubles Xpert

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    15 Thousanths constriction from the 16 yard line, 30 Thousanths from the 27 Yard line out of my Kolar 750 Bore... But then Hey, what do you expect from a Kolar..
     
  9. wolfram

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    Why is it a monumental decision? Or perhaps you are having a bit of fun -

    Anyway why not try a tighter choke? The results may suprise you (in a good way). There is a reason the better shooters run tight chokes and it isn't because they want to make the game more difficult.
     
  10. hunter44

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    For those of you who advocate less than a full choke I would ask what do you believe that you are getting with less choke? A bigger pattern? More fringe pellets? I would also ask how many have taken the time to place a pattern board at 35 or 40 yds. & shoot counted patterns. I have & my conclusion was that it made little difference between .20 & .35 either in pellet count or distribution. Use what makes you confident........I'll stick with full to get as many pellets into the approx. 20" kill zone from 16-27.
     
  11. Dr.Longshot

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    Frank Little always used a full choke gun on singles. I also use full choke on singles.


    Gary Bryant
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  12. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    I use IM for everything only because I've never seen a difference putting full in....smoke is smoke..I just like the IMs pattern better as the outer 18" circle has less holes it seems..thats with Briley extendeds in an Invector Plus barrel
     
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    Even with a "good" patterning gun, say, one that puts 75% of the pellets in a 30" circle, virtually all of my misses occur from the 25% of the pellets absent from my pattern and which do not completely fill it out, thus causing those @#$%^ misses. Targets have a way of escaping through the holes in your pattern, regardless of choke, don't ya know. Regards, Ed
     
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    For 35 years I used a fixed full choke .042 constriction Remington barrel. I murdered targets as they rolled over in smoke.

    I tried a factory Remington fixed modified barrel .022 constriction, and I don't really see a big difference. I shot the modified barrel all the way back to 24 yards.

    My scores are the same using both chokes and barrels.

    I asked a friend who was a former all american what he thought the best 16 yard choke constriction was? In his opinion it was .028. I also asked him what he thought the best choke constriction was for 27 yard handicap and said use the tightest choke you can find.
    Steve Balistreri
     
  15. Sky Buster

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    Shoot what the Big Dog's shoot! Full choke. .032 or tighter.
     
  16. Martinpicker

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    I have a Briley XF extended choke that patterns as perfectly as I could ask it to with light 8s or 7.5s! I use this choke for patterning different guns and for shooting money games from long handicap. But, that being said, I use a Briley's IM from the 16. I am sure it is psychological, but..... Martinpicker
     
  17. flyfish

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    Leo Harrison III says, "It doesn't matter which choke you use as long as its a full choke!" I'd say he's done pretty well!
     
  18. John Galt

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    People don't all shoot singles targets at the same distance so what works well for one might not work so well for another.
     
  19. Stl Flyn

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    Use whatever choke gives you the best breaks. Chips put doubt in your mind, which reduces confidence. Dwindling confidence spawns dwindling concentration! It is that simple. I am with Flyfish!
     
  20. GW22

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    Unless you frequently miss by 3/4" (which, by the way, you don't) the fact is that a modified choke is not going to help you at all from a pattern standpoint. From a mental standpoint, however, if you believe it will help then it might. But then again, so will wearing pink underwear.

    -Gary
     
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