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Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by rpeerless, Sep 18, 2013.

  1. rpeerless

    rpeerless Well-Known Member

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    Recently heard a Fox news report on "mass shootings" in America, with Brett Baer (sp ?) in which statistics were spouted on mass shootings.

    Homicide figures were inserted with the stats that over 500,000 (not the exact figure) homicides occured in the past 30 years.

    Ok. 500,000 + homicides over the past thirty years but what was left out was that @ 80% of homicides are 'other than gun'.

    Don't take my word for it go to the FBI statistics and go back 30 years and add and divide and see what you come up with.

    Also included in that 20% gun homicide figure of half a million figure are police actions, justified homicide by police and citizens expanded over thirty years.

    Present the truth in reporting. By inserting a 'total homicide' and not 'homicide by gun only' in a 'mass shooting report' is deceiving the public into believing that a half a million people died by gun homicide over the past thirty years which is a lie by ommission.

    Don't expect to see liberal trick statistical reporting from Fox. Just the truth please.
     
  2. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

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    Yep seen the report.

    They gave it during The Five also, guess WHO couldn't accept its findings??

    Yep, ole Bob!! He is one of those who can't believe 2+2=4!!

    The result of doing the "math", mass shootings have only amounted to less then ONE PERCENT in "shooting" stats.

    Crutchfeld gave the "stats" for the number of "use's" of firearms "deterring" crime, almost 3 million times, Ole Bob couldn't accept those either.

    But that doesn't matter to the like of ole Bob!! Guns are evil and mass shootings accrue at a high rate!!
     
  3. rpeerless

    rpeerless Well-Known Member

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    Yes, but having the 500,000+ figure on the screen behind makes the report appear to be a large number of victims to gun violence when in fact it is @ 20% or less of that total figure. @ 80% of homicides as being with 'other than gun' with suicide (almost all drug related being calculated separately).

    And mass shooting victims are as you stated less than 1%.

    But this is why mass shootings continue to occur, to "up the statistics" enough to legislate gun confiscation with justification because no one will buy it any other way. The need is to increase the number of victims and use their families to dissent over guns and the Second Amendment. That is 'racking up the numbers' and 'using' polls. IMHO

    How easy is it for anti government 'isms' or foreign 'isms' to supply drugs and arms to the mentally troubled in this country's cities without reprisal; just as we supply other countries with arms during conflicts?

    In totalitarian governments people are only numbers not individuals. That is why the "isms" are hated so intensely.

    We all know that in a free society the only way to stop gun violence is with a gun.
     
  4. rpeerless

    rpeerless Well-Known Member

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    Honestly more articles needs to focus on the hard accurate statistics with someone who has access and credentials to present the material.

    Getting only some of the stats and trying to figure out patterns of percentages is somewhat accurate but rock solid accurate would be better.

    The 80% to 20% is based on available figures but may go less in previous years and more this year but it is a median. Try it yourself and see what you get.

    NRA articles are soft on statistics and I expected more from their articles. By soft I mean they use quantitative phrases instead of actual statistics to make a point.

    The left however throws out figures and percentages whether they apply or not and think what you may if it works to their advantage. This is also why this administration has assembled their own data collectors instead of using FBI stats and CDC hospital reporting data.

    Also legislators must justify the tax dollars that they are pouring into gun legislation with gun deaths @ 11,000 per year justified and non justified while they turn a blind pocketbook to hospital infections that are killing 25,000 people annually.