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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by 1100 REMINGTON MAN, Mar 17, 2013.

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  1. 1100 REMINGTON MAN

    1100 REMINGTON MAN Well-Known Member

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    For AAA shooters do you use any 1oz loads ? If so when & why ?
     
  2. oleolliedawg

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    AAA at the Southern Grand but I think I was way over-classified. 1oz. for the first shot in Doubles only but my Doubles stink so bad I might switch over to 1 1/4oz. Actually, I tried 1oz. for Singles for one whole ATA season and never broke a 100!!
     
  3. JT 27

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    I have been AA for 20 yr.s and broke several 100's every year. Went to 1 oz. loads 3 yr.s ago. I thought the lower scores were just age catching up with me(72). I loved the lack of recoil. Went back to 1 1/8 and am getting AA scores again.
     
  4. Jawhawker

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    ole shotshooter on here tells me he does. Daro Handy use to.
     
  5. rodney57104

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    I shoot singles with 1oz 8's full choke and 1oz 9's with IM for 1st shot of doubles
     
  6. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    Back in the day, when I was AAA in doubles I used Light or extra light 1 1/8 of 8's for singles and both shots in doubles. I use one once now but I'm not the shooter I once was. I'm planning to go back to 1 1/8 oz. but it's probably mostly in my head.
     
  7. 1100 REMINGTON MAN

    1100 REMINGTON MAN Well-Known Member

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    I tried some 1oz last week & I could not tell any difference in recoil. I'm shooting a 11-87 & have always shot 1 1/8oz shells. I reload & don't care about cost savings, I want every target I can get. I have read hear & shotgunworld I might be missing something if I don't try 1 oz loads. So I was courious what the Best in the sport use. Loads I used were.
    Hull. STS
    Primer Win. 209
    Powder. Clays. 17.8. MEC bushing # 32
    Wad has been Lag-Uniwad for 16yds. Handicap WAA12 or Clone
    Shot 1 1/8oz. 8 1/2 & 8 for 16yds & 7 1/2 Handicap

    One oz. load I tried
    Hull. STS
    Primer. Win 208
    Powder. Clays 17.8. MEC bushing # 32
    Wad. DRXL-1 Neon Green
    Shot. 1oz. 8 1/2

    I want to say thanks for he responses, I'm still confused as what to use. I guess I'll shoot 250 of my old loads at 16yds & new 1oz loads for 250 shots & see what the scores are.
    I have not shot a registered target in 20+yrs but renewed my ATA membership & hope to shoot some ATA events this summer.
     
  8. USCTRAP

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    I once asked this question of one of the top shooters in our sport and his take on the 1 oz loads was he wished everyone else would shoot 1 oz loads as he needed all of the advantage he could. I got the message and have been shooting 1-1/8 oz every since. But in 16 yd targets I shoot a 2-3/4 dram load at about 1145 fps. But I'll add this, I reached the 27 yard line the first time shooting 1 oz loads.
     
  9. bigben

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    11100 remington man, I have never shot with an any all Americans when the majority of absolute best shooters in the world shooting ATA trap shoot 1 1/8 oz of shot on the ATA 16's , doubles , and handicap, it tells volumes, the effective "killing diameter ' on targets are thus, 1 oz. 24 inches, 1 1/8 27 inches, at 38yds. should your skills anything less thn the best, throw the most number of shot at the target,you will be rewarded. incinerate em!
     
  10. Straight50

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    I don't like shooting sub-gauge, if I did I would just shoot a 20 gauge.
     
  11. AveragEd

    AveragEd Well-Known Member

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    I carried a AAA singles average for a few years using one-ounce loads and broke quite a few 100s each year but I'm not a genuine "good shooter." I have, however, discussed things like porting, barrel work and one-ounce loads with Phil Kiner, who is a genuine "good shooter." Phil told me he has his guns ported, the barrels worked on and uses 1-1/8 ounce loads just in case any one of those things might get him one target some time when it really matters.

    Personally, I saw no difference in my 16-yard scores or target breaks with either shot payload. I never tried one-ounce loads for handicap - I just didn't trust them from 27 yards but I do know one 27-yarder who did well with them.

    Ed
     
  12. jrton80

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    I believe you should pattern your loads with both the 1 ounce you want to use and the 1 1/8 ounce you use to see which one gets you the best pattern from your gun. Sometimes I have found that some barrels pattern better with 1 ounce versus the 1 1/8 ounce. Not so much a hot center (unless you like that) but a more evenly distibuted pattern that won't let a target get through. Jeff Rickert
     
  13. Primedust

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    I've shot one once on everything for the last 3 years. Have noticed the breaks are poorer at about 35 yard line, but good everywhere up to and including the 27 with sootballs.
    I do occassionaly shoot 1 1/8 oz. for handicap, but not normally.
    Estate 1oz. 2 3/4 dram 1145 fps. works for me.

    Primedust
     
  14. 1100 REMINGTON MAN

    1100 REMINGTON MAN Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all the replies. I guess I will go to all 1 1/8oz loads for my shooting as I have in the past. I will try and pattern some 1 oz loads this summer just to see how they compair & total pellets in 30 inch circle will be the winner & not the one with the highest percentage. I will also plan on checking 3 new wads to me Blue Dusters, DRXL-1 1/8, DRF8, looking for a 16 yd wad & Handicap Wad.
     
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    I have been shooting 1 oz. loads exclusively for 16 yards for over 20 years. Broke 200 straight at the Grand in '92 with 'em. I can't tell the difference in the brakes between 1 oz. and 1 1/8's. I do shoot 1 1/8 loads at handicap.
     
  17. likes-to-shoot

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    From isssue #1 of TrapShooting USA.

    Go to page 76. There is a article on 1 oz loads.
     
  18. WoodsonEnt

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    You better be shooting 1 1/8 ounce loads in AAA competing against Leo, Harlan, Ricky, Mitchell, etc. If the ATA deemed 1 1/4 ounce loads legal, there would be shooters switch.

    Shoot the heaviest load allowed. If recoil is a concern.....get a 391, Soft Touch, Stock Lock, Pro-Soft, etc.
     
  19. likes-to-shoot

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    5 lbs of shot is not going to help if your outside of the pattern.

    If the bird is inside the pattern of 1 oz of 8's (more pellets than 1 1/8 oz of 7 1/2's) it will smoke the target, period!!

    If most people didn't know what they were shooting between 1 oz and 1 1/8 oz they wouldn't be able to tell the difference.

    At least read the article I posted above and then decide for yourself.
     
  20. bossbasl

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    The theme with ATA shooters is generally "the more the better" which explains ATA extreme reluctance to mandate 1 oz. or 7/8 oz. loads as the international games have done. Also explains why so many long term/high volume trap shooters end up having to shoot a release to compensate for recoil induced flinch. Go figure.
     
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