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Florida Gun Laws

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Pacemaker, Mar 20, 2007.

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  1. Pacemaker

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    I just returned from the Southern Grand in Odessa, Florida. I stopped at a local gun shop and tried to buy a Model 12. The proprietor told me that ATF has rules that they (Florida dealer) can not sell any gun to an out of state resident. Does that sound correct? I thought the Feds had a rule similar on handguns but not on long guns. Do you florida residents know anything about this one? Thank you for the reply. Tim
     
  2. SF SGM

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    Tim,

    Florida has a agreements with certain states that allow Florida non-residents to purchase long arms as long as the past the call in. If you are not a resident of one of those states, you cannot purchase a weapon in Florida.
    Van
     
  3. slide action

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    The dealer is FOS or trying to B.S. you. If you had purched a gun at the Silver Dollar you would be bringing it home with you. Many dealers simply are afraid of the hassle given the recent phony gun stings around the country. Me guess is he KNEW the law and was banking on you NOT knowing it. Some states(like Calif. and some lefty NE states) try and trump federal law(which allows you to buy LONGGUNS even if you are from another state). FL has no state law on the books like this. If the guy is telling you FEDERAL LAW prevents it, he is either totally ignorant on the matter or is feeding you B.S. to get rid of you.
     
  4. oleolliedawg

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    Slides right but the dealer was probably ignorant of a law that only affects handgun sales. Most dealers I know will accept peoples money!!
     
  5. Bawana

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    What you could also have done was to pay for the gun leave it and go to your gunshop that you do business with and had them fax their FFL Lic to them. They would then ship the gun to that shop. OR as I think about it you could have called your gunshop and while there had them fax their FFL and you might be able to walk out of the store with the gun.
     
  6. esoxhunter

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    Why would you pay for the gun and leave it ??? I have purchased a gun, (not a handgun) in Florida while I was a legal resident of Wisconsin. I have purchased a long gun in Wisconsin while a resident of Florida. I have purchased a long gun in Arkansas while a legal resident of Florida. The problem we have here is a lot of ignorant people who don't know the laws. No different than the discussions on this forum about shipping a firearm. Everybody has an opinion and a belief; without the correct information. I have in the past had 3 FFL holders refuse to sell me a Model 12 on Gunbroker.com and Gunsamerica.com because I didn't have an FFL. However the law clearly states that I can purchase a Model 12 with my C&R license. These people must have something against money. If you want to sell a product and the law states I am entitled to buy the product why refuse me? My opinion. Ed
     
  7. Jack Burch

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    Tim,

    We have an FFL and had a very similar situation happen recently. An out of state customer had a new shotgun receiver sent to me from another FFL. When he came to pick it up during a tournament I called ATF and they said that even though he was from an adjoining state I needed to complete a 4473 to complete the transfer. It was stated that if he was not from an adjoining state the transfer would not be legal. This was directly from ATF in San Antonio, Texas.

    Jack
     
  8. Easystreet

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    The following is a direct quote from the ATF website in the Firearms FAQ section. Unless you are prohibited from purchasing a rifle or shotgun in your home state, then it appears that the Florida gun dealer didn't know what he was talking about.


    "(B2) From whom may an unlicensed person acquire a firearm under the GCA? [Back]

    A person may only acquire a firearm within the person’s own State, except that he or she may purchase or otherwise acquire a rifle or shotgun, in person, at a licensee's premises in any State, provided the sale complies with State laws applicable in the State of sale and the State where the purchaser resides. A person may borrow or rent a firearm in any State for temporary use for lawful sporting purposes."
     
  9. marine_0341

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    i bought a .17 HMR in pensacola at wal-mart with a N.C. ID
     
  10. esoxhunter

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    Jack: Because a donut eating Federal employee in San Antonio Texas, who probably got his/her job through affirmative action, spews forth a bit of incorrect drivel; then everyone should take this as gospel?? If you want a good analogy; try asking a postal employee about shipping a firearm. You will get many different answers to the same question. I had to personally educate a local postal employee with 12 years seniority; about allowing an individual, (in this case me) that doesn't have an FFL, to ship a firearm out for repair. After reviewing the postal policies and procedure manual he and his supervisor agreed that I could ship a gun through the USPS. (Long guns only) He told me that in the 12 years that he worked for the post office, he was under the impression that no one except an FFL license holder could ship a firearm! No different than calling some rube at the IRS for information on a tax issue. If you don't get the answer you are looking for, ask for his/her supervisor. In my 1st response to this thread I included all the states that I purchased guns and not being a resident. I failed to note that I also purchased 4 guns off of the internet through my C&R license. States involved were Indiana and Illinois. These were all purchased from an FFL and "legally" shipped to my residence in Arkansas. After looking at a map of the United States, I noted that IL., IN, WI, and FL, (these are states I have purchased guns from) do not border the state that I reside in. (Arkansas) Ed
     
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    The posts above are correct. As long as it is not in violation of either state's laws, there is no federal law prohibiting a ffl holder from selling to a nonresident over the counter at his establishment.

    Federal law does not mention "adjoining states" at all, that is a state matter that has to be considered. If it does not apply in the two states involved, it does not apply, period.
     
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