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First Time Doubles-Wow!

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Westie, Sep 2, 2011.

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  1. Westie

    Westie Member

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    Been shooting in league for a few years and shot doubles last night for the first time. Have to admit that I don't see how you guys do it. The book says I'm supposed to shoot the straight away first, but the second bird is in the next county by then. For some reason on station 4 and 5 I had better luck shooting the right target first. Must be wired wrong. I've shot sporting clays several times before where everything is a double, but this seemed quite a bit more difficult. Hats off to doubles shooters.
     
  2. bebloomster

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    Wasn't that total fun !!! I shot my first doubles a couple days ago.... even managed to score a 60 out of 100. Going to be trying them a LOT more often.
     
  3. Jeff P

    Jeff P Well-Known Member

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    Don't make it harder than it is, Westie!! I'm guessing you're shooting that straightaway more like its a single.

    Be RECKLESS with it. FAST. Sure, at first you'll miss some - even a lot of the first ones.

    There's hold points (referenced off the trap house) that get you in the right spot, so it comes out right under the gun. See the flash, basically you pull the trigger. It's NOT a spot shot, but its close. For example, on post two, you'd hold about 10" in from the front right corner of the house, and parallel with the ground.

    Doubles are fun...stay at it.
     
  4. wolfram

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    You don't need to be super fast or sloppy to shoot good doubles scores. With accuracy comes speed - but never the other way around. If there is a 'trick' it is that the gun shouldn't stop moving until after the second shot is away. You have plenty of time to get to the targets and shoot them but no time to waste on stopping then restarting the swing.

    Take some time to watch a few really good doubles shooters and notice how fluid they are and also notice they don't appear to be in any rush. They also don't waste any time with things like bead checking or riding the target.

    Above all - practice, practice, practice.
     
  5. DB Bill

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    Westie --- I think you're in good company of\n Station's 4 and 5 as I think that's the way Sean Hawley shoots them and he's been known to break a few doubles now and then.
     
  6. Stl Flyn

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    Problem with shooting station 4 and 5 in that manor is you are going to stop the follow though to go back and get the center bird. You basically are have to follow through on two birds. Very difficult. If you shoot the center target first, you will move the gun over and through the angle bird much more effertlessly. As stated above get the hold points for where that center target is going, and allow the bird to come to that point, which would be a slight angle up from level to the traphouse. Then swing to, and through the angle target in one fluid motion. Your swing should be a very slight angle up, if not straight across to the angled moving target. Ideally, but not necessary, this should be done before the angled target starts moving down, or past its crown of travel. As for station 3, shoot the bird first to the side you tend to do worse at on the angled birds. Because you know exactly where that bird is going to be. Usually right birds for righties. Doubles shooting is a very fun game. You are now hooked.
     
  7. Stl Flyn

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    When you practice, if you can sign up for station three or after the lead shooter. This way you can determine a spot where you can hold the gun for the first bird to intersect it when it crosses your barrel. If by yourself call for a pair first in each station to get your starting point. This takes practice, to be able to shoot the first bird without having to move the gun.
     
  8. Auctioneer

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    I shot my first round of doubles in MD in the 80's. I would get the first target and be happy as hell and then remember theres a second target. I was shooting it about two feet off the ground. The score had already called it lost. People who were on the squad were yelling dead bird. This went on for some time and I heard the score say Damn Newbe. LOL. I don't remember my score but I was hooked. Even the other shooters and watches were having fun just watching. LOL
     
  9. Westie

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    Thanks for the advice guys. I think it may have shown me that I am a closet bead-checker.
     
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    The first time for me was at the 2007 Southern Grand. I shot next to Colton Kant, 12 yr. old sub jr all american. After we finished he looked at me and asked "have you ever done this before?". In 5 years I still find it the hardest event for me shooting one eye. However, through constant practice (wasting entry fees at shoots) I've managed to get close to moving into C Class while I've moved up significantly in caps and singles. While it's the hardest for me, it's the most fun! Two things I have to remember for me to shoot well in doubles...1) shoot the first bird quickly and don't watch it break and 2)when you swing to the second, make sure your cheek stays on the comb.

    blade819
     
  11. cueguy

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    Nothing wrong with shooting the right bird first on 4 & 5. It works quite well if that is what you are wired for. Sean Hawley, Pete McCall, Charlie Morrison, to name 3. You can always go back to "regular" if you want to. They are a blast!
    Nubs Wagner
     
  12. perazziuser

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    Keep a look out for the next round of "Pro Tips" on Jim Scouten's Shooting USA. He was down at Ft. Benning last week and I happened to film my tip on ATA Doubles.

    Some of my key points are mentioned above to include locating a hold point, not letting the first target above your barrel, and transitioning to the second target.

    Jeff Holguin
     
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    If you shoot the first bird fast enough you can use a skeet choke and 1 oz of 9s. It makes things a whole lot easier if you have your gun setup for the way you shoot the targets. HMB
     
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    20K+ doubles targets shot at since 1978 and I still love the feeling I get when my timing is spot on and I hear "dead a pair"!!!
     
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    In my humble opinion:

    Keep doubles and get rid of the rest, JMO.
     
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    I'm in your camp on that 391 shooter!

    Nothing better than coming off the line with gun barrels that are too hot to touch - never gets boring.
     
  17. Westie

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    Went back last night for my second dose of doubles. How in the world can a "normal" person miss so many straightaways? I swear that last night they were harder to hit at times. That was especially true on station one. Don't know if it's just because they're different, but man they sure are fun.
     
  18. Twinbirds

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    it is a learning experience. you just have to learn it. I do best when I use a sweeping motion, the gun moves through the first target path on it's way to the second target.I never see the first target break. It is faster and smoother. a glitch on my part can lead to a lost pair real easy, but it is so easy to hit a pair when it's working!
     
  19. hmb

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    There are no straight aways in doubles. HMB
     
  20. GW22

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    Humbling, huh? Reminds me of the first time I shot 5-Stand, LOL.

    -Gary
     
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