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federal vs> remington primers

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by hrosik123, Aug 30, 2009.

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  1. hrosik123

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    was sent 10,000 federal 209a primers instead of remington> can I use them with same powder charge called for with remington
     
  2. 101Diamond

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    No, the federal primer is hotter than the Remington and will require less powder for an equal fps. Check your loading manual.
     
  3. goatskin

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    NO!

    The Rem is a very mild primer, and the F209A is a very hot one. They are NOT directly substitutable, like Win/Fio/NS/Rem.

    That said, there is probably several loads you can shoot to use them with your current powders .. but probably a couple of grains less.

    What is your current recipe(s) is where to start.


    Bob
     
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    Just out of curiousity, where does Winchester 209 primers fit in the hotness scale?---Matt
     
  5. hrosik123

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    how many grains less
     
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    Hrosik123:

    Be Careful!!!

    You need to consult a reloading manual as Federal primers often will cause higher pressure than Remington primers. If you are at a high pressure level with Remington primers, you may go to an excessive pressure level with a Federal primer.

    You can access the Alliant and other powder makers reloading data using the LINKS section of TS.com.

    Since you have so many (a blessing), obtaining proper load data is prudent.

    If you cannot find load data, a call to a powder maker will probably result in a happy ending. They should be able to advise you as to how much powder to use to achieve the desired result.

    I like to use Federal primers during the winter months because IMO they always give a powerful and dependable ignition.

    Ed Ward
     
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    how many grains less ...

    What is YOUR current recipe? Start with your hull, powder & wad.


    Bob
     
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    mix is calling for 18 grains of promo powder w/remington primer> new to reloading game and cant find a mix for promo w/ federal primers
     
  9. hrosik123

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    was sent 10,000 federal 209a primers instead of remington> can I use them with same powder charge called for with remington
     
  10. 101Diamond

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    No, the federal primer is hotter than the Remington and will require less powder for an equal fps. Check your loading manual.
     
  11. goatskin

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    NO!

    The Rem is a very mild primer, and the F209A is a very hot one. They are NOT directly substitutable, like Win/Fio/NS/Rem.

    That said, there is probably several loads you can shoot to use them with your current powders .. but probably a couple of grains less.

    What is your current recipe(s) is where to start.


    Bob
     
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    Just out of curiousity, where does Winchester 209 primers fit in the hotness scale?---Matt
     
  13. hrosik123

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    how many grains less
     
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    Hrosik123:

    Be Careful!!!

    You need to consult a reloading manual as Federal primers often will cause higher pressure than Remington primers. If you are at a high pressure level with Remington primers, you may go to an excessive pressure level with a Federal primer.

    You can access the Alliant and other powder makers reloading data using the LINKS section of TS.com.

    Since you have so many (a blessing), obtaining proper load data is prudent.

    If you cannot find load data, a call to a powder maker will probably result in a happy ending. They should be able to advise you as to how much powder to use to achieve the desired result.

    I like to use Federal primers during the winter months because IMO they always give a powerful and dependable ignition.

    Ed Ward
     
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    how many grains less ...

    What is YOUR current recipe? Start with your hull, powder & wad.


    Bob
     
  16. hrosik123

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    mix is calling for 18 grains of promo powder w/remington primer> new to reloading game and cant find a mix for promo w/ federal primers
     
  17. goatskin

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    <i>Just out of curiousity, where does Winchester 209 primers fit in the hotness scale?---Matt</i>

    Primer brisance is not especially easy to quantify but MOST accept:

    F209A

    CCI-M


    Win

    ...

    ...

    ...

    Rem (all flavours)

    Win, Rem. Noble Sport, CCi-R, Fiocchi, Cheddite are all considered to be 'Medium Strength" primers, with Remington the mildest.


    Bob
     
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    What hull?

    What wad?

    What weight of shot?


    Bob
     
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    I have promo powder, Rem gunclub hulls, Claybuster8100 wads. 1oz.#8 shot
     
  20. goatskin

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    Lots of loads there.

    How fast do you like to drive your 1oz?


    Bob
     
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