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Federal Top Guns

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by tomr1, Sep 26, 2011.

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  1. tomr1

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    Wal-Mart has Federal Top Guns for $4.77/box. Are they the equivalent to the Winchester Super Target?
     
  2. Old Cowboy

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    They're better
     
  3. grnberetcj

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    Much better....and they reload very nicely!!

    Curt
     
  4. RunGunIPSC

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    Fed put out Top Gun ammo about 30+(Maybe even 40?) yrs ago before the import craze hit. It was to offer a cheaper alternative to the Gold Medal. They kicked harder than a similar Dram Eq Gold Medal,at least it seemed that way to me. I suspect this was due to the fibre base construction & different powder. Don't remember the wad but was not the S-3 Gold Medal. Guys absolutely loved them.
     
  5. skeet_man

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    Top Guns and Estates (same thing, Estates have better shot) are the best deal going if your not buying premium ammo.
     
  6. ou.3200

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    How do you know Estates have better shot? The Top Guns seem to work very well for handicap.
     
  7. skeet_man

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    Estates use Magnum shot, Top Guns use "hard" shot. This was reaffirmed to me by a federal sponsored shooter last weekend as well.
     
  8. BigM-Perazzi

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    And this "Federal sponsored shooter" shoots Estates???
     
  9. skeet_man

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    Actually he shoots Gold Medals.
     
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    As much as they get trashed on this forum, apparently WalMart and Dick's don't hold grudges, because $4.77 is a heck of a price for Top Guns and Dick's is selling Gun Clubs for $4.98.
     
  11. miketmx

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    I believe that Top Guns and Estates are identical in every way since they are made at the same place in Anoka MN. It is my experience that Winchester Super Targets are better for long yardage Handicap than Top Guns.
     
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    skeet man 100% right on the estates. geo 3
     
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    I shot doubles with a Federal rep at the Ohio State shoot. He said they are exactly the same except for case color and printing. Made in the same plant.

    Really, who cares as long as they go bang and break the targets?
     
  14. Pull & Mark

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    Ian, just what is the difference between magnum shot and hard shot??? I've come to understand Magnum shot is 5-6 percent antimony while most of the economies are at 3 percent antimony. Just where would you place the Top Guns???

    Mike so if Winchester makes the Winchester Super Targets and the Winchester Double AA shells at the same plant they would also be same as well!!! If I were to follow your logic!!! break em all Jeff
     
  15. skeet_man

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    As far as I know, the Estates have 6%, and the TG have 3%
     
  16. miketmx

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    I normally use either premium shells or my own Green Dot reloads with West Coast magnum shot for registered Handicap events. I was not pleased with the quality of breaks when using Top Guns but I did get some decent Handicap scores using Super Targets which are the most popular shells here in Western Canada. My personal opinion - no logic involved.
     
  17. daddiooo

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    Federal owns Estate. Top Gun and Estates are both a "B" grade shell. For anything at the 16 yard line they're both sufficent to break targets. Federal Top Gun is the superior shell and hull.

    Remington Gun Clubs.....a bit more thump and I see alot more unburned powder when cleaning my gun.

    Just MHO.
     
  18. grunt

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    Estates were once made in Texas, until Federal bought them out.
     
  19. Pull & Mark

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    Thank You Ian for reaffirming what I had already read, even though it was several years ago.

    Mike, I also like the Win. shells as well. It hard to beat there wad in any of there shells, even if the shot is only the 3 percent type. Also like you I use my reloads more than any other shell, and all of reloads have the Win. AA clone wad, and in all gauges as well!!! Now if I were to only shoot 12 ga. and not bother to reload well, its hard to beat the Estates for quality and price!!! break em all Jeff
     
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    The 4.77 shells at our walmart are federal 1 oz field loads not top guns and therefore probably have chilled shot in them,and they kick like a mule.Jerry
     
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