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Federal handgun & semi-auto owner licensing

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Brian in Oregon, Jul 29, 2007.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Read it and weep. Told ya it was coming.<br>
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    Federal licensing of ALL handguns and ALL magazine fed semi-autos, regardless of whether they are "assault wepaons" or not. This also means de facto registration, because by applying to get the license, you've just identified yourself as owning them.<br>
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    Anyone else wishing for a tea party?
     
  2. Beretta687EELL

    Beretta687EELL Well-Known Member

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    Welcome to Canada, Brian. Once you are licensed the next step is to register handguns .... Bill Malcolm
     
  3. halfmile

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    I have been watwching the escalation of prices in components and ammo, and the recent attempts by Feinstein and xchumer et al for de facto removal of ammo from legitimate sales areas with a bit of dismay.

    What good is the gun if you have nothing to put in it? I don't think a revolt is possible with pitchforks and baseball bats against tanks and machine guns.

    The sky is not falling yet, but it seems to be trembling quite a bit.

    This one requires the usual loud reponse to legislators. Mine always reply. With a canned liberal feelgood letter on the subject.

    AI then send back a real letter on paper promising to campaign vigorously against them next election.

    So far no answer.

    HM
     
  4. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    It's already in there for future gun purchases. All they need to do is amend it to add guns already owned, which by being licensed, you've already identified yourself as owning them, it's just a matter of specifying the specific make, model and serial number.<br>
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    SEC. 202. FIREARM RECORDS.<br>
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    (a) Submission of Sale or Transfer Reports- Not later than 14 days after the date on which the transfer of qualifying firearm is processed by a licensed dealer under section 922(bb) of title 18, United States Code (as added by section 201 of this Act), the licensed dealer shall submit to the Attorney General (or, in the case of a licensed dealer located in a State that has a State firearm licensing and record of sale system certified under section 602 of this Act, to the head of the State agency that administers that system) a report of that transfer, which shall include information relating to--<br>
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    (1) the manufacturer of the firearm;<br>
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    (2) the model name or number of the firearm;<br>
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    (3) the serial number of the firearm;<br>
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    (4) the date on which the firearm was received by the transferee;<br>
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    (5) the number of a valid firearm license issued to the transferee under title I of this Act; and<br>
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    (6) the name and address of the individual who transferred the firearm to the transferee.<br>
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    (b) Federal Record of Sale System- Not later than 9 months after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Attorney General shall establish and maintain a Federal record of sale system, which shall include the information included in each report submitted to the Attorney General under subsection (a).<br>
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    (c) Elimination of Prohibition on Establishment of System of Registration- Section 926(a) of title 18, United States Code, is amended by striking the second sentence.<br>
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  5. Paladin

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    What else could be expected from a liberal congress? A congress with a 19% approval rating? On par with them is the gun owning liberals who vote for, prop up and support the very politicians that wish to take their guns from them.

    Then to top that, some will come on here and state they have never voted for a anti-gun politician,,,and they think we are to believe them!!! Not!!


    And then the same lame statement of "Reagan, Nixon, and Bush Sr did more harm to the Second Amendment than anyone" just doesn't seem to hold water. Evidenced by this latest round of LIBERAL ANTI-GUN LEGISLATION.

    One of the first things this liberal congress did after taking control was to draft anti-Second Amendment legislation.

    With a 19% congressional approval rating, and basically NOTHING, and I mean NOTHING, to offer on the democratic presidential roster, maybe this recent surge of liberal political momentum is grinding to a halt. And they will be once again relegated to the status of irrelevance,, again.
     
  6. Brian in Oregon

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    Shame on any gunowner who votes for a gun banner - liberal OR a RINO. There is NO excuse for doing so.
     
  7. W.P.T.

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    If the Dumocrates win the White House you will see a bunch of Federal laws with restrictions or eliminations attached before the term is over ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  8. halfmile

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    They're going to get them all eventually. One little nibble at a time. It started with banning machine guns. Then GCA 1968. Lautenberg, AWB, etc etc.

    Looks like ammo is an easy target, no shells is just as good as no guns.

    Some of the peole posting here cheered them on.

    Only free people own weapons.

    HM
     
  9. Tripod

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    damn commies!!
     
  10. jnoemanh

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    You do realize, don't you, that if you have bought a gun from a dealer in the last 35 years, it is already "registered"?

    Not to worry - as one genius has already posted here OSHA will end trapshooting two days from now anyway.

    LOL at the chicken littles.
     
  11. spritc

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    We better band together and get these assholes out of office. Even though they think they run this country, we have to show them NOW what the "will of the people" means. There are so many gun owners that believe this will never happen and I guarantee if we allow this to go any further it will happen. We need to vote everyone who is anti-gun, whether Democrap or Republican, out of office. Get ready to send those letters to your representatives, it may be sooner than you think.

    Steve in Indiana

    p.s. If you aren't a member of the NRA, now is the time to become one!
     
  12. Bustedemall

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    Has Jim Zumbo taken over your computer Tron?
     
  13. SoftCraft

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    You guys think just the licensing is bad...This is the next to last paragraph!

    "This Act and the amendments made by this Act shall not apply to any department or agency of the United States, of a State, or of a political subdivision of a State, or to any official conduct of any officer or employee of such a department or agency."

    This makes the government entities a totalitarian government with no option of the public to make objections without armed officials enforcing their will.

    We should be scared if this is enacted....very very scared.

    Rich
     
  14. halfmile

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    These times are unlike any other.

    We have total video coverage in major cities. Cellphones instantly located by GPS. Electronic money that enables tracking of a person't every move, meal, or overnight sojourn.

    Try renting a car without a major credit card. But now we also have the mark of the beast:

    RFID chips. Tested for years in animals, now used to verify security clearance in human beings with sensitive jobs.

    A short step away is denial of subsistence if you are not chipped and identifiable. I'm not saying the sky is falling, but there are serious cracks in the dome.

    The only thing that has stopped the NWO here in the USA is the presence of free people with weapons.

    Looks like the times they are a-changin.

    HM
     
  15. Paladin

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    "You do realize, don't you, that if you have bought a gun from a dealer in the last 35 years, it is already "registered"?"

    At present, the serial number of a long gun stays with the FFL holder on the 4473 form. The federal government does not see this serial number unless the dealer ceases business and submits his 4473's, or, if a gun is used in a crime and the government proceeds to do a search, from the manufacturer, to the wholesaler, to the dealer who identifies the owner per the dealers records.

    Re-read the link jnoemanh. Grasp the extent of the proposed legislation!!!


    "Not to worry - as one genius has already posted here OSHA will end trapshooting two days from now anyway."

    Speaking of genius's, the gun owning liberals who vote for, prop up and support politicians that want to ban firearms fall squarely in the "genius" category. They are ignorant to the bone!

    "LOL at the chicken littles."

    One year ago, if you asked the citizens of Washington DC and Morton Grove IL how many were chicken littles, you would probably be told to stick it!!!

    When you are done re-reading the link,,,read it again.
     
  16. jnoemanh

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    Yada....2nd amendment...yada.

    What you ought to be worried about is the rest of the Constitution. Take, for example, the 4th amendment, which Bush and his slimy Attorney General have and continue to violate with total arrogance. They claim they don't even need legislation to do this.

    Bush has simply chosen to flush the 4th amendment down the toilet. He's called the Constitution "Just a Goddamn piece of paper."

    You think a proposal to register guns is dangerous when you've already had your right to warrants taken away secretly, and the President wipes his ass with the Constitution? Wake up.
     
  17. eagles11

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    It should be interesting in the next few months with this and the US Supreme Court fixin to listen to the DC handgun ban case!!

    Jack Burch
     
  18. Paladin

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    Well it's damn obvious you didn't read it again. That being said, read it again!! Grasp the extent of the proposed legislation!!! Obviously you haven't.

    The subject is the Second Amendment, not the fourth. But since you brought it up, it's typical of you liberals to deflect off of the subject.

    You whine and cry about the fourth, but don't give a crap about the second. You people know nothing about honoring the constitution. Nothing!!! The hight of ignorance and hypocrisy.



    By the way, can you tell me the significance of the 9th number from the left on your FFL license, since you've said you have one?
     
  19. silverado

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    Bobby Rush is the sponsor. This is pure anti-gun, and his butt-buddy Daley put him up to it.
     
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    "You whine and cry about the fourth, but don't give a crap about the second. You people know nothing about honoring the constitution. Nothing!!! The hight of ignorance and hypocrisy"

    yet you still defend Nixon, Reagan, and Bush Sr....all who enacted the largest gun restriction laws.

    keep dancing to their string pulls...they got your number and you act just like they want you to.

    attack the liberals...while THEY sign the big legislation. They sure know how to keep you distracted from what is really going on.

    me...i think both parties are criminal and refuse to vote for either.
     
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