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Fast and Furious according to NPR.

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Barrelbulge(Fl), Jul 6, 2011.

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    ATF head says he didn’t know about disastrous ‘Furious’ operation
    By Liz Goodwin

    National Affairs Reporter

    PostsEmailRSSBy Liz Goodwin | The Lookout – Wed, Jul 6, 2011tweet0EmailPrint

    ATF Director Kenneth Melson (AP/Pat Sullivan)
    The embattled head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) claims in new testimony that he knew nothing about the much-criticized "Fast and Furious" operation that sold guns to small-time buyers in the hopes they would sell them to drug cartel members--and, so the theory went, place cartel leaders in the path of federal law enforcement. Agents intended to trace the guns using wiretaps and video surveillance to make bigger-name arrests up the cartel food chain.

    In December, two of the guns sold in the program were found near where Border Patrol agent Brian Terry was shot and killed, NPR reports. ATF-provided guns have also reportedly shown up at other crime scenes south of the border. Lawmakers began investigating Fast and Furious, and rumors flew that the ATF chief's head would roll.

    But acting ATF Director Kenneth Melson testified this week that he had no idea the operation was under way, and added that he was "sick to his stomach" when he reviewed f0r the first time hundreds of documents on the operation. Melson claimed he immediately demoted the agents who were responsible, and said the Department of Justice told ATF leadership not to answer any requests for information about Fast and Furious, effectively tying his hands.


    (The agency has lacked a Senate-approved head since 2006; lawmakers and gun groups have kept nominees for the post deadlocked.)

    Republican Rep. Darrell Issa of California and Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa asked Attorney General Eric Holder in a letter dated Tuesday whether the FBI and DEA neglected to share key information with the ATF. They say information suggests that some of the high-level targets of the ATF's operation were actually already known to the FBI or DEA--and in some cases, acted as the agencies' paid informants. The Justice Department replied in a letter today that there are ongoing discussions about whether to provide the "sensitive law enforcement information" they're requesting.

    "The evidence we have gathered raises the disturbing possibility that the Justice Department not only allowed criminals to smuggle weapons but that taxpayer dollars from other agencies may have financed those engaging in such activities," Issa and Grassley wrote.

    Holder has asked the inspector general to investigate, and told NPR he reminded agencies that "under no circumstances should guns be allowed to cross the border into Mexico." President Obama said neither he nor Holder knew about or approved the operation.

    A recent study by several U.S. senators employing data from the ATF found that 70 percent of guns confiscated in Mexico are traced to U.S. gun shops. Assault rifles, which are legal to sell and own in the United States, have contributed to the "militarization" of the drug cartels in Mexico, the study found.
     
  2. Brian in Oregon

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    Baloney. This is damage control. They're trying to blame underlings to keep the gun version of Watergate from landing on the originating source - Obama.

    People need to go to prison and Obama needs to be impeached.
     
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    Come on you guys! If NPR said it, it's gospel! It's not like THEY have an agenda!
     
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    http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/e...ent/?singlepage=true

    Email Confirms ‘Gunwalker’ Known Throughout Justice Department

    Attorney General Holder's credibility takes another hit.

    July 6, 2011 - 8:20 am - by Bob Owens


    Seen this on another shooting site. Might clear it up for a few of you.
     
  5. Brian in Oregon

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    Here's an interesting comment posted to the article cited above:

    "This criminal endeavor by our own government shows, disregard for law, disregard for our Constitutional Rights, it shows the willingness to enter into a scheme that has ended in the murder of hundreds of Police Officers in both Mexico and the United States, it show a criminal mind and a political evilness that is hard to believe in a free society. All of this was done in secrecy and with ‘Main Stream Media’ complicity and proves that they are in the pay of the Democrat Party, not one of the so called newspapers or talking heads have said anything. Hey Senator Feinstein, your President and the DOJ are dealing in machine-guns to narcotic dealers and you have nothing to say?"
     
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    Just on FOX. $10,000,000 of the stimulus money was used on this project.


    Re: **OPERATION GUNRUNNER WAS FUNDED BY 2009 STIMULUS PACKAGE!!** Quote [+] #

    Oh my. The original bill was pretty explicit.


    SEC. 3. ENHANCED INTERNATIONAL COOPERATION.

    (a) In General- The Attorney General, in cooperation with the Secretary of State, shall--

    (1) assign agents of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives to the United States mission in Mexico, to work with Mexican law enforcement agencies in conducting investigations relating to firearms trafficking and other criminal enterprises;

    (2) provide the equipment and technological resources necessary to support investigations and to trace firearms recovered in Mexico; and

    (3) support the training of Mexican law enforcement officers in serial number restoration techniques, canine explosive detection, and antitrafficking tactics.

    (b) Authorization of Appropriations- There are authorized to be appropriated $9,500,000 for each of fiscal years 2010 and 2011 to carry out this section.
     
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