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Failed president

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by SeldomShoots, Jan 27, 2010.

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  1. SeldomShoots

    SeldomShoots Active Member

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    big,

    I have no doubt that Obama is in the midst of and will end up with a loosing record as far as his presidency goes. However, the article is biased by not including George W. Bush as failed presidency. Just once on this website I would like to see a thread or post that shows the good things as well as the bad things that each president did or failed to do during his term as President.

    I realize you didn't write this article, but you posted it, thereby indicating that you approve and believe in said article. While I agree with many of the statements within the article, as a whole, it fails to address that our government democrat or republican, conservative or liberal, capitalist or socialist has failed us time and again. If it had not, then the Republican controlled house and senate (during George W. Bush's administration) should have ended or at least reformed abortion, welfare, affirmative action, NAFTA and so on. The trouble is there is no money in it for the republicans and democrats alike to address these issues. And the downward spiral continues.

    I presume and hope that your posting of the article is more of call for a return to the ideas of our founding fathers, and a clearing of all politicians that run our country into the ground, rather than you way to complain about Obama while leaving other responsible parties and persons for this country's problems alone.

    John E.
     
  2. warren

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    I agree that George Bush did push our country further into debt however he did fight two justified wars and did protect the American Public succesfully. It is my opinion that the current admisitration is on a course of absolute madness and could very well bankrupt the country. It is also my opinion that President Obama could very well be impeached if he does not rein in the madness.

    warren
     
  3. highflyer

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    If Obama fails it is George Bush's fault. He is still fighting that war for oil.
     
  4. Bruce Specht

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    The american voting public that voted for Obama failed!
     
  5. halfmile

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    Yes, it's our fault. Too much time has passed to blame GW any more.

    You notice it isn't Bush, rather it's "the problems we inherited".

    Still manure, no matter how much perfume you use.

    HM
     
  6. j2jake

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    RIght on Bruce! Jake
     
  7. slayer

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    I think everyone expects too much from a "president". He is at best a figurehead for his party and a puppet of many other factions. His actual options are severely limited by a lot of factors. I myself would rather see a man of intelligence and education become president [and be judged after his term, not one quarter of the way in], rather than a washed up actor or worse. Give this man a chance gentlemen, he may surprise you.
     
  8. Chichay

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    highflyer,

    If you truly believe that, why not google just how much of the oil we import comes from the Middle East; specifically, how much comes from Iraq? With the internet, there's no reason to remain ignorant of the facts. Chichay

    slayer,

    What is it that Obama has done in the past, that makes you confident of his ability to lead this nation adequately? That "washed up actor" before becoming president was also governor of California. I might add he did quite well in both offices. Do not confuse intelligence with wisdom (and relevant experience). Chichay
     
  9. H82MIS

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    Chic,,good post but your talking to a couple of,,,,,,,,,,,,,ah,,,you know what I mean,,,,,

    And slayer I will not give him a chance,,He has declared war on my wallet,,so the war is on,,,,
     
  10. GW22

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    OICU812: I like your comment, "I will not give him a chance. He has declared war on my wallet, so the war is on."

    I'd like to borrow your line and modify it slightly: "I will not give him a chance. He has declared war on my kids' futures and my wallet, so the war is on."

    -Gary
     
  11. Bruce Specht

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    slayer, Obama grw up in the state of corruption, Illinois as a life long resident I know this is fact. He like those thathe has and dose work with are all about filling their pockets. "Birds of a feather" The American public have been duped.
     
  12. H82MIS

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    Gary,,good point,,well taken,,Jim
     
  13. wireguy

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    It is a genuine tragedy that America's first black president is a Marxist, narcisistic America hater.
     
  14. Jerbear

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    Nuclear plants, drilling offshore? Who wrote his speech? He is grasping at straws to keep the progressives in power in 2010.

    This guy is so full of sh!t...

    Jerbear
     
  15. RLC323

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    Worst of all is the way he has dragged us through the mud in front of the rest of the world. Off he flies to Copenhagen to "win" the Olympics for Chicago. Dickie Daley and the first lady couldn't pull off the deal so they called in the sitting president to shill for Chicago. Slapped in the face by the Olympic Commitee. A few months later he flies back to Copenhagen to "save" the climate talks, the sitting president again slapped in the face by China and India this time.

    He seems to believe his magical b.s. charisma that worked first on the stupid voters of Chicago, then the stupid voters of the entire U.S. will work on the rest of the world. He is wrong.
     
  16. SeldomShoots

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    flincher, what I was referring to on the lack of money issue, is that there seems to be no significant money thrown at the politicians to amend or repeal laws and/or programs that are detrimental to this country. My opinion is that lobbyist, organizations and corporations throw a significant amount of money into getting what they want. The best example is the Representative who would get 2 or 3 hundred million for her state or area in federal money and projects to change her no vote to yes on Obama's health care plan. Granted, she should have been stronger willed on her principles, but principles have price tags in Washington. Once it is in place everyone in Washington seems to have no motivation to rock the boat. I think it is still the lack of monetary gain to change things back coupled with weak minded officials, who fail to do the job they are elected to do, as you state.

    half, you never disappoint me with your responses as they are quite predicatable. When Bush's administration had problems throughout his presidency, it never seemed too late for people (much like you) to blame it on Clinton. The fact is, that presidents try to set an agenda and policy, however, they are one person and one veto. There are many to blame throughout the last 40 years or more, primarily in the house and senate, and as I stated above many politicians regardless of party affiliation are to blame, and the repercussions of the policies, programs and laws enacted during prior administrations have long lasting effects. Look at the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac debaucle, it took about 8 to 10 years to come full circle and put the screws to this country. Not a good thing under Clinton's administration, but make no mistake the problems with uncontrolled spending under Bush's administration are going to haunt us for some time to come. The same will be true from Obama's.

    God help us all. John E.
     
  17. highflyer

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    Hard to believe but you wee right here there are still people who think Obama is doing a good job. Amazing. What he has done is spend, spend, spend. What have we got for all that spending. Nothing. More job losses and more home foreclosures and a debt that will last for at least another generation. What does he still want to do? Have a government takeover of health care. Tax energy consumption more. End the Bush tax breaks that put money in my poor pockets. Put more libs in the courts. Continue to bash America around the world. Continue to blame the greedy rich for all our problems. Continue to attack our corporations, except the ones he has taken over. Continue to give sweetheart deals to the filthy corrupt unions. Basically, he wants to do for our country what the local governments have done for Detroit and Chicago. Look to Haiti and Venezuela for a model of the type of national government Obama wants. Less freedom more corruption, more government waste.
     
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    And the poll last night after his teleprompter reading was over had 87% of Americans saying he did a terrible job with it. 87% in this country raerly agree on anything. But they got this one right.
     
  19. SeldomShoots

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    Just a little more about something wrong that our current president is doing, and the check and balance of the house and senate will likely fail to stop.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203863204574346610120524166.html

    Not exactly sure why America has not imploded yet? John E.
     
  20. highflyer

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    Just heard on the radio that the federal debt is 100,000 dollars per household. I will have to get another job to pay back my part. Wait a minute. Obama has destroyed the job market. I will have to put paying back my part on hold until this clown is gone.
     
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