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F/S Winchester MOD-12 28 guage

Discussion in 'For Sale- Members only' started by esetter, May 2, 2011.

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  1. esetter

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    Just spoke with Bill and this is not a factory original 28GA model 12. Sounds like a very nice gun though and it is choked IC.
     
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    That sounds like a standard grade Winchester reproduction (yes browning and winchester later both had them)

    Market value $750?

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
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    Not a Browning, it is one of the guns some gunsmiths were turning out in the distant past.
     
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    From Florida?
     
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    There are a number of guns out there that are 20 ga Mod 12s that were converted after market to 28 ga. I'm not saying that is the case in this gun.

    Also, I do not understand why anyone would assume, from the info provided, that this gun is a reproduction or even perhaps a Browning.

    To me, so far from the info provided, I can't really tell its origins or provenance.

    Cheers
     
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    The reason I thought Winchester is that their reproductions(just like brownings- had IC chokes)

    Actually the 16 gauge frame(which at one time was about worthless) was used to make a number of fake 28 gauge guns

    Regards from Iowa

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    Thanks for the explanation, Gene. I believed that many were made from 20 ga guns, but I defer to you as I am not an expert on this by a long shot.
     
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    I am far from an expert but I remember when it was happening and you could buy 16 gauges for next to nothing (when they quit producing shells or slowed down)

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
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    According to the owner of the gun it is one of the converted model 12's and not a reproduction. I thought they were made using 20GA guns also but I could very easily be wrong.
     
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    Since 28,20 and 16 gauges were all made on the same frame, it was a lot more economical for the shysters to make up 28s on 16 frames.
     
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    A 99% 28ga. model 12 for $3500 should give everyone a clue. I shot a skeet set back in the 60's and only kept the 28ga. and to my knowledge a good one is worth between $5500 and $7000.
     
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    The conversion,done correctly makes a very desireable looking M-12. I had one of the conversions about 20 years ago. It was on a 20 ga. frame and it was stunning to look at. It would fire and eject perfectly when loaded with one 28 ga. shell at a time (into the chamber). The big problem was when 28 ga. barrels were available,the other parts to convert to 28 ga were not. The mag tube and follower were 20 ga. It would not feed the second shell because the tube diameter was large enough to allow the 28 ga shell to get cocked. A 16 ga would only be worse. This could have been corrected by sleaving the lower 3 or 4 inches of the tube with aluminum or some other light weight material and making a new follower. I don't know if the spring is the same for 16/20/28. If not a new spring would have to be wound. At the time I had too many other irons in the fire to get cought up in that one. Shoot it first and action a few shells through it. It could have already had the modification to make it feed.

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    Patrick Swartz
     
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