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## F/S ## NOT M12 - IS REM 31 XXX fancy

Discussion in 'For Sale- Members only' started by drgondog, Jul 21, 2013.

  1. drgondog

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    Another project cancelled due to oldest son 'borrowing' one of my pieces.

    I thought this is a Wenig Special Selection Model 12 - 20 Ga butt stock semi inletted stock. Black Walnut...

    EDIT - there is a question whether it is a Model 12 Butt. It definitely isn't a Rem 870 or Ithaca or Win 1200. I never really looked at it closely until now.

    I just found a Model 31 Remington and posted the pics below

    $195 15 years ago. Will consider reasonable offer or trade for less.




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  2. lwr_

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    Are you sure that is for a Model 12?
     
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    It was marked Model 12 but I don't have my 20 to look at the tang.

    EDIT - it is for a Rem 31... Not Mod 12
     
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    It is not inlet for a Winchester Model 12, 20ga or otherwise. Nice wood though!!
     
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    Winchester Model 12 tang, 20 ga.


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    I've puzzled over this and think I have the answer. If yo look at the stock face, the slight 'ring' is not in the correct position for the inletted portion of a fully inletted M12. The lower tang inlet looks correct if the stock is taken back (3/8) to get the 'correct' inner ring inletted and tang position set.

    Having said that, IMO to do so makes the stock too short in the face.

    I'm gonna have to re-think this but IMO, while the face could be inletted properly, taking that much off the face (3/8 inch) makes the grip too short.

    On the off chance that someone really knows what this stock is, I will keep it up a day or so.

    EDIT - Model 31 Remington - see new pics of finished stock above

    Regards,

    Bill
     
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    I was going to make a low ball offer for the stock at my risk (as is no return), but then I found the above pics of an original Win model 20 20ga stock at the auction link. It looks the same with the exception of the length of the ring. Might be a good stock with a little work. What do you think?
     
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    Brian - I have also looked at it. Unfortunately I don't have the M12 I gave my son but here is what I think if I was doing the project.
    I would shape a plug that is bell shaped and epoxy it in the bottom tang area to make sure I had the full face of the stock to work with.

    Then, if the face 'as is' is the right length, the two steps to finish would be
    1.) add a round plug, epoxy on face, and inlet plus drill out through bolt hole.
    2.) inlet bottom tang.

    What remains is the 'bell' part with an 'inner tang' inletted on the bottom and a ring to help fit receiver and stock face.

    What about this?
    Even trade for two bags of high antimony 8's or a beat up Type 2 Perazzi forearm - any style and condition as long as it isn't cracked.

    If, after you receive it you want to unwind the deal, I'll send you $100 to get the stock back.

    If you keep it, take pictures and share the process.

    Regards,

    Bill
     
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    That sure is some pretty wood. I wish it had been for a Model 12, I would have bought it for sure.
     
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    It is definitely a model 31
     
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    It would need further inletting on the face edge to fit a 31. Don't think it is for a Model 31 either. First picture below is of a Model 12 stock. Second picture is of a Model 31 with and without tang.
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    Lwr - thanks for the pics, but it definitely is a Mod 31.

    What is left to be done is to inlet around the circumference about 1/8 to 3/16 deep to fit inside the receiver, then finish the tang.

    When the circumference is cut back as described above, that funny looking 'flare out' for the tang inletting disappears.

    Regards,

    Bill
     
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    I sent it off on consignment - just in case it wasn't what he needed..
     
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    Let us know the final result.
     
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    Bob (OLdRemFan)sent it back with following comments:
    1.) 11/16 hole instead if 7/16 and drilled too deeply. Would require a plug and re-drill to make it right.
    2.) grip too short for him - probably a youth (or female-my words)

    After a day I will take this off the market,

    Thanks to all of you to help me sort this out.
     
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