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F/S a better SHOT DRIPPER, 2X the production

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  1. Jim101

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    Curt what material do you use to make the drippers??




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    You can fess up curt. I've made a few myself and the only material I've found satisfactory, Meaning machineable, Is hot rolled and free machining steel. Stainless and the tougher alloys eats the small drills.



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    Jim,


    Beleive it or not, people have been putting small holes in hard stuff for a long time.
     
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    Drippers start out as 3/8-16 Hex Head bolts -- 13/64's hole is drilled down from the threaded end until the drill almost breaks through the head of the bolt -- then a cross hole is drill through the head (on the flat) of the bolts until it breaks through to the 13/64 hole -- size of that hole depends on the the size of the shot you want to make -- around .018 for number 9 shot -- not rocket science -- the small hole is the touchy one
     
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    Blizzard that is true, But they have access to better tooling than the average home shop guys. I have a small atlas verticle mill with a special chuck for micro drills and I still manage to break a few drill bits. I have found the 1/2 inch hex stock in leadloy or free machining steel the easiest to work with.



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    Jim, what would you charge me to drill just the small hole in the dripper for #8 shot, I bought a shotmaker with lots of extras, only the guy broke his bit with about 15-20 drippers to go, would like to have them drilled for extra's and could they be drilled as double drippers? Virg
     
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    Curt,
    I'm glad you ordered a set of drippers from me so you could go into business for yourself. Do you have to charge so much? Are you trying to get rich off of one set? At least yours might be better than the Littleton drippers. Littleton never has learned how to make drippers. I think you still have alot to learn.
    James Stewart
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    Virg, I don't even make my own any more, It's a real PITA to drill them.




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    Best steel for machining and drilling is in the 1200 series, like a 1212L or 1214L which are low-carbon and leaded. Alloys like maganese, nickel, crome, etc. and carbon content are the items that make maching more difficult...Mike
     
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    why does the steel have to be so hard?

    Molten lead will be flowing through the hole.... why does it have to be hardened steel?

    wouldn't regular hot rolled steel work?
     
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    Mike,
    You have it absolutely right on what kind of steel bolt it takes to make the best drippers. The problem of it is- finding the right manufacturer. I have to import my bolts as I can't find a manufacturer in the United States who makes them to my specification.
    James Stewart
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    Curt:
    Why don't you order a Better Shotmaker from Mr. Stewart so that you can learn how to make shotmakers then you can put your drippers into your machine and revolutionize the shotmaking industry with your better product.
     
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    Give him hell Ellen! You go girl!

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    Shotmaker

    Send a print to me, I'm PRETTY sure we can manufacture any bolt you need, as good if not BETTER than anything you can IMPORT!!!

    Tony



    KenEnt Screw Machine Products.
     
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    Hello....my first post here as I am new to the forum.Spent a few hours reading posts over a number of days, and couldn't resist joining up as you clearly are an interesting bunch of people!

    Mr`Stewart, I was wondering if you could point out what is the subtle difference between your drippers and the littleton's.
    On the surface,(and admittedly I have not seen one of yours), one would imagine them to be the same.

    Thanks
     
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    Aleadscaster:
    The difference between my drippers and Brand X is that every dripper I make is made by me, checked by me, air gaged by me, and is engineered by me for my Better Shotmaker machines. In my machines they will make the correct size shot. I can't guarantee that my drippers will work correctly in Brand X but the do fit Brand X's dripper hole. The reason they may not work correctly is the difference in the heat range since Brand X usually runs much colder. Anyone that is making their own machine will have the same heat problems until they work the answer out themselves.The engineering and experience that goes into my drippers has been developed over 45 years of making my own machines and my own shot. The most expensive is not always the best since my drippers sell for $30.00 a set of 7 for Single Drippers and my Double Drippers sell for $50.00 a set of 7. All the other drippers out there are copies of mine since I'm really the one that developed the first shotmaking machine way back when.
    If you would like to chat more call me at 256-587-0107.
    Thanks For Asking,
    James Stewart
     
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    Anything further to report Tony @ken ent screw machine products? You also have an e-mail.
     
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