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F/S 1 lbs of hodgdon hs6 powder

Discussion in 'For Sale- Members only' started by grntitan, Aug 2, 2013.

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    Is this a joke?
     
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    Do you have Hazmat certification? You won't be able to ship Hazmat materials without it.
     
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    skeet_man at what level hazmat certification is required that you are talking about? please tell me.
     
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    You'll need to contact Fedex or UPS for that info. Everything I've ever read online indicates the certification will run you north of $500, plus the fee for each and every package you send.
     
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    Jake- A little bit of research found this on the Fedex Site:

    Qualification Process
    In order to ship hazardous materials vi
    a FedEx Ground, shippers must complete a
    qualification process before
    they can ship hazardous materials. To begin this
    process, contact your FedE
    x Account Executive who can assist you or call FedEx
    Customer Service at
    1.800.GoFedEx (1.800.463.3339)
    .
    Qualification process:

    Complete a hazardous material
    s qualification form (OP-910).

    Provide information on the hazardous materials you’ll be tendering to FedEx
    Ground. You can complete a sample hazardous materials certification form
    (OP-950) or prepare a spr
    eadsheet listing the hazardou
    s materials you ship.

    Provide proof that you have been trained in shipping hazardous materials in
    accordance with federal requirements (
    49 CFR 172.704). Acc
    eptable forms of
    proof are:
    1. A certificate from a training com
    pany stating that you have completed its
    program. This certificate must contai
    n the date in which the course was
    completed.
    2. A letter on company letterhead i
    ndicating who is responsible for
    hazardous materials training at your
    company and confirming that your
    employees have received the required training.
    3. Completing the ShipSafeShipSmart
    online hazardous materials training
    program.
    Your FedEx Account Executive will forwar
    d this information to the FedEx Ground
    Safety Department for review and notify
    you once you’ve been approved to begin
    shipping.

    The "ShipSafeShipSmart
    online hazardous materials training
    program" will run you $150, so it can be done a little cheaper than I originally thought (maybe it was more expensive to do it as an in-person class, before a web based alternative was created). But still, you CANNOT legally ship powder (or primers) unless you can "Provide proof that you have been trained in shipping hazardous materials in accordance with federal requirements".

    The problem is that most of these guys, esp the gunbroker sellers, are charging the hazmat fee, pocketing the money (ups or fedex won't take your money for the Hazmat shipment without the certification, so there's no way they are paying ups or fedex for it), shipping the powder without declaring it, and hoping for the best. And in doing so, they are setting themselves up for some MAJOR jail time if they get caught (shipments via UPS or Fedex DO NOT require a warrant to be opened, whereas USPS shipments do).
     
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    Can't find the story I stumbled across a few months ago regarding shipping powder illegally.

    The guy got caught, and IIRC correctly, the sentence involved some lengthy jail time and over $100k in fines.
     
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    Shipping hazmat items without the proper credentials is a Federal Crime. It is not worth the risk to try and ship it on the sly. If you are legal, no worries.
     
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    I am technician level certified in hazmat. Would that qualify me in labeling and delivering items such as primers and powder? Just wondering. I don't know about all the laws but if powder and primers are not shipped together doesn't this remove the Hazmat situation?
     
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    "Would that qualify me in labeling and delivering items such as primers and powder?"

    You'd need to contact Fedex or UPS for that answer.

    "I don't know about all the laws but if powder and primers are not shipped together doesn't this remove the Hazmat situation?"

    Absolutely not. Primers by themselves need to be shipped Hazmat, powder by itself needs to be shipped Hazmat, primers and powder together need to be shipped Hazmat.

    The only ammunition related items that don't require are brass/hulls, bullets/shot, wads, loaded ammunition, and primed empties.
     
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    BTW, guess the answer to my initial question posted to the OP was "No" LOL.
     
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