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  1. steele

    steele TS Member

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    Anyone have any knowledge of hunting in the Trinchera Ranch,CO area? A friend is trying to get out there, but I'm really hestitant, considering the Colorado politics.
    Butch from Pgh
     
  2. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    go to Wyoming or Montana...screw Colorado..I wouldn't go there unless I won their lottery..and then only long enough to collect and scram
     
  3. Stl Flyn

    Stl Flyn Well-Known Member

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    You might want to think about who that is affecting before you decide to do that. Like the Republican ranch, and land owners providing the outfitters, and businesses that rely on those hunters, and recreation money.
     
  4. blackfoot

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    Move out of Colorado- max 3 round mags. Go to Wyoming or Montana!
     
  5. Dicksie

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    Did you see this online? http://www.biggamehunt.net/forum/trinchera-ranch-co-unit-83-rfw ? Sounds OK. You might want to contact the person who says he was successful. Have you hunted elk before? In my opinion, it requires a lot of skill; I have hunted them successfully for more years than I want to say, mostly in Pagosa Springs, Co, in the National Forest. One time only on a 9,000 acre fenced in "Game Park" on an Indian reservation in New Mexico, which I hated. The sick part of the reservation was that was their Class B park! The Class A Park was only 300 fenced acres stuffed with big bulls for “hunters” in a hurry. Elk move fast and far if spooked and they kept hitting the fence in even the class B park, , not my idea of hunting. Amazing how small 9,000 acres was in this situation. If this isn't fenced and if you can get out and away from the traffic it might be OK. I wouldn't worry about the politics or the clips; like California, Illinois and a lot of states, I think most of the idiots are in the big cities. I hunt with one of 2 Weatherby Mark 5 bolt actions, the magazine holds 3, plus, one in the chamber, these magnificent animals are to be respected and shot with one or 2 well placed shots, not a hail of flying lead. I highly recommend Barns Solid copper bullets, they are a huge improvement over what was available before for many, many reasons.
    Dicksie
     
  6. JH

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    Hunt Wyoming, Montana or Idaho. Do not contribute with your tax dollars to the COLOFORNIA economy. Your elk hunt will indirectly help the idiot Democrats who seek to restrict gun rights.

    Besides, elk hunting is better in Wyoming or Montana.
     
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    besides getting in shape, when you get there you need to drink water by the gallon to fight off any dehydration caused by the elevation. I have fished Montana above the 10,000 foot elevations every year for about 20 or so and lots of water is very important.
     
  8. John55

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    Have hunted in the area off and on for about 20yrs. The Trinchera is a HUGE ranch, well over 100k acres and was formerly owned by the Forbes family. Sold a few years back but still offers some good elk hunting from what I hear.
     
  9. steele

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    I'm an experienced elk hunter. I've hunted central CO, NE of Gunnison, for the last 15 years straight. I know all about the high, thin air at 11,000+. It kicks my butt every year. No real way to train for it, except acclamation. It takes me 3-4 days to really feel good & then the hunt is winding down. I always archery hunted & I've got a handful of decent bulls. I always have hunted with the same outfitter, but I've been offered a pretty sweet deal at Trimchera. I'm still not sure how to handle the political angle. I posted earlier in the POLITICS section, about a boycott,but the more I thought about it, it would be the outfitters who would really take the hard hit. I might wait awhile to decide, to see what shakes out, as the license is avaialble OTC, not draw.
     
  10. wolfram

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    Be honest with yourself and ask if 'protesting' Colorado with a personal boycott of all things Colorado will make any difference whatsoever in Colorado politics. Even if every NR hunter boycotted the state do you believe it would influence the politics one bit?

    The only things that could possibly change the situation in that state would be the voters themselves which is unlikely given the current demographics.

    For what its worth, there are lots and lots of folks that live in Colorado that are not blue card dems and don't agree with the latest legislation. The state still has a lot of quality recreational opportunities. There aren't any new laws that would effect the quality of your elk hunt.
     
  11. thunder

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    wolfram How would you think we will get the word out to the state population. Tell them we are upset with who they voted for and passing these anti gun laws and then continue to spend dollars in Colorado. They have to feel the pain of loss of revenue, once this happens they will get out and vote these anti gun, anti hunters out of their state. It's the only way to stop this gun madness in this country.

    On another thread Bangalore posted the following and I couldn't of said it better:

    People in the shooting sports should never aid and abet their enemy.

    Hunt Wyoming, Utah, Idaho or Montana. Let COLOFORNIA go up in POT SMOKE!
     
  12. shooterIII

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    Outdoor Channel Blacklists Colorado Over Gun Control Laws

    Read more: http://godfatherpolitics.com/9838/outdoor-channel-blacklists-colorado-over-gun-control-laws/#ixzz2Ncez7BGf
     
  13. wolfram

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    Thunder, I don't think recreational boycotts of Colorado would have any impact at all on the people that are passing these unconstitutional laws. Think about it - the gun banner types would be just pleased as punch if you never went hunting in 'their' state again. They also don't give a hoot about any lost tourism dollars because they live in this fantasy world that doesn't need to work to make a living.

    The most likely effect of a widespread boycott on CO recreation/tourism would be that you would hurt some of the good people trying to make a living from their ranchland in the off season.
     
  14. JH

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    Sorry, but there cannot be a "business as usual" approach when dealing with the left-wing radicals....MagPul will hopefully move out of Colofornia....Colt may leave Connecticut, Beretta may leave Maryland....

    Sleeping with the ENEMY only encourages them....

    If they want to change the "gun culture" in their Blue states, then, the "gun culture" has to make hard choices....giving them tax money to maintain their "value system" is counterproductive.....
     
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    It stinks that it would hurt the little guys,..but thats how it works! Loss of business causes loss of tax revenue but it also causes a lot of very ticked off business owners who need to start screaming bloody murder from within at their politicians to wake thenm up to the consequences of what their ill thought out laws have done..the best outcome is a sweeping vote out of the liberal morons next election...just yelling doesnt work you have to hit them in the pocketbooks AND the polls
     
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    Today (March 15) is the last day to apply to hunt deer and elk in Montana this year. The license is issued through a drawing, and if you draw the cost is $809. Wyoming's nonresident elk deadline is already past. Idaho nonresident elk and deer tags are over the counter, with a quota that has not been filled for at least ten years. You must first buy a nonresident hunting license ($240). The elk tags are issued for a specific zone and cost $416.75. Seasons and other requirements vary by zone, with last year's information available at the website above. The 2013 regulations will be finalized in the next few days.

    You can find a lot of information about outfitters in Idaho from the Idaho Outfitters and Guides Association (IOGA.org). Idaho does not have as many elk as Colorado, particularly in the traditional backcountry units, mainly because of the wolves. Many of the better zones are limited entry for bull tags (issued by controlled drawings), but Idaho does not have a preference point system as most other western states do, so you have the same chance of drawing as any other nonresident applicant. I shot the bull below on the first afternoon of my hunt in October 2010, and saw many other branch-antlered bulls the rest of the week hunting deer. The deer are making a nice comeback in that same area, with many nice bucks taken last fall. One particular one last fall guided by the outfitter I go with should make Boone & Crockett - it was a massive 6x7 with a spread well in excess of 30".

    PM me if you want further info.




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  17. steele

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    I do believe a boycott would have some impact. In 2009, there were 229,000 non-resident hunter big game licenses issued in Colorado, bringing in more than $110 million. If a total boycott was initiated, we would get someones attention. It is a shame that the outfitters would take a big hit, but they would just be "casualties of war", so to speak. I think the outfitters themselves need to step up to the plate, to help solve this.
     
  18. JH

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    Hang together or hang separately.......

    This is a "value system" war....there is no middle ground....if left-wing radicals choose to denigrate the shooting sports....then, the shooting sports need to support state legislatures that are friendly to the shooting sports.

    I say, spend our money in RED STATES!
     
  19. thunder

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    Sorry wolfram your statement (The most likely effect of a widespread boycott on CO recreation/tourism would be that you would hurt some of the good people trying to make a living from their ranchland in the off season). Won't just be ranchers getting hurt but these people have to get off their asses and get out and vote out these idiots they allowed to get in office in the first place. Elections have consequences.

    Also you are incorrect if the current politicians passing these bills will not feel the financial hurt on a boycott. Especially in the state of Colorado who has counted on the hunting and tourism revenue.

    We cannot lay down and be sheep this is a war against law abiding citizens owning guns legally. Fight this fight with boycotts, revenue and whatever it takes to keep our current rights of gun ownership. Some may want to live in a country that we fear the government that is suppose work for us, that kind of life is not acceptable.
     
  20. CalvinMD

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    Not to mention that their loss will just sting that much more seeing the prosperity of states that didn't destroy the freedoms of their good people
     
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