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Electric drive for Spolar

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by high 2, Aug 31, 2010.

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  1. high 2

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    I can`t seem to find a used Spolar, so I`m getting ready to order a new one. Is anyone useing the electric drive from PW on a Spolar? Looks like a better deal deal that the noisy hydraulics. Comments? Thanks Larry
     
  2. high 2

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    I want a foot pedal and can see where the electric drive could be a problem. That`s the input I`m looking for. If the hydraulic is safer with a foot pedal, that`s the way I should go. I`m going to a hand specialist Thursday for what looks like carpal tunnel syndrome. I`m tired of pulling the handles on my 366`s. Larry
     
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    Larry I think that the PW Auto-drive operating the Spolar is the BEST set up you can get. I have the very first Auto-drive Spolar production unit made on my Spolar and it has been absolutely trouble free since I started using it. I have about 40 thousand + loads across it now and I would never want to do without it. I had and used PW hydraulic , Spolar Hydraulic and Automate II on the PW 9000s that I used before going to the Spolar loader and I much prefer the PW Auto-Drive to any of them.

    Larry any of the drives are equally dangerous when used with a foot pedal. It is easy to loose track of where your hands or fingers are and push the pedal. At that point it won't matter whether hydraulics or electronics mash them it will HURT. The key is to keep reminding yourself that it isn't a race and pay attention on each cycle.

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  4. dverna

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    The Electric will slip and applies less force than the hydraulic unit.

    Would not want to get my hand caught on either set up.

    The Electric Drive is slightly slower - or so it seems to me.

    Don Verna
     
  5. chipking

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    Don's 100% correct the Auto-drive does have a slip clutch to prevent damage to the loader or drive if something gets jammed BUT I'm betting it would still hurt a whole bunch and the electric is slightly slower than the hydraulic.

    --- Chip King ---
     
  6. pullll

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    I have the number two Auto-drive for Spolar. While I have only reloaded only 18713 shells, for Chips info, I did go to the foot pedal ASAP when it was introduced. This unit is fool proof and stops the Spolar in mid stride when deactivated, no hesitation to stopping the Spolar. Buy the way, at this time I have claimed the world record for home reloading with 814 shells in one hour. This was continious loading only stoping to refill the primer tray, foot on the pedal non stop. That being said the the shaft of new handle goes all the way to the handle stop just as you would with the pull down handle. You cannot make an incomplete cycle unless you use the reverse switch to interupt it. IE: A complete cycle equals a reload with any Spolar unit. IMHO the Auto-drive is a 100% cycle vs: the manual handle which can be reversed before bottoming out.
     
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    High 2, I don't think you can buy a "better" loader than a spolar. I own one and I also own a 366. Rather than deal with the repetitive motion issues I purchased an electric drive for a 366 from pw. One setup adjustment and 10k 12 gauge shells later going smooth as silk. As to speed hydrolic vs electric, I can only say when you can load at 3 to 4 time the rate you can unload, does it matter. When I lay out my bench with wads, emptys, primers, and powder its no problem to do 4-5 hundred an hour. I added the foot switch because the 366 requires 2 simultaneous hand motions instead of the one at a time right / left motion of other loaders.

    I have destroyed maybe 12 shells due to operator error in the last 6 months. The spolar will be used for sub gauge loading. Its easier to change out te dyes.

    Hornady 366 auto drive pictures this is the thread I posted in December. Since then I added the large capacity powder and shot containers. The mec bottles in the picture were epoxied on.
    Dan Gill
     
  8. high 2

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    Dan, I have 3 bad habits. They are trap, skeet, and sporting clays. My wife shoots all three with me. Some folks like to reload, I HATE it, and want to get it done as fast as possible. When you shoot as much as we do, there is a lot of time in front of a loader. I`ve got 4 366`s that have served me well, but it`s time to upgrade. I`ve never heard anything negative about the Spolar. Just don`t know what is going to be the best drive for me. I know I want the foot pedal, and think the hydraulic might be the safest because it does dead head(I think) and you have to reverse the pedal to finish the loading stroke. If anyone has a Spolar that they are wanting to part with before I order a new one, please speak up now. Fred, you dont need to say anything. Larry
     
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    Mike No the unit is made and sold by Ponsness Warren. They make a specific auto-drive for the Spolar. The serial numbers on it begin with SP. PW also makes a autodrive for the Dillon 1050 and 650 metallic cartridge loaders and the Hornady 366. Each of these units is made to work with a specific loader not a one size fits all with adapters.

    high2 a auto-drive on your 366 (PW makes it)and you would have a good rig at a lot less money. Heck for less than the price of a Spolar you could get another for a second 366 and crank out the loads.

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    I can see the drive working on the 12 gauge and maybe the 20. But you can forget the 28 and 410. I have to size the two small gauges because of different chambers between Briley and Kolar sub gauge tubes. That`s the biggest complaint I have on the 366`s. Larry
     
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    You can do 900 an hour on a Dillon pulling the handle, I wonder what they would do hooked up to the PW drive?
     
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    I doubt you will get any more speed using an electric drive. they will give you more consistant loads, and save wear and tear on you. I use a spolar with the automate II. about 8 years old now and going strong. rick zino
     
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    APrice,

    I was digging around for a picture of the original automate unit Jim Benn sold before cashing out to Mec. I had a P/W 800+ on one, and the same unit had mounting bolts for the Spolar Gold. I might have some up in Reno where I reload when up on weekends, etc.

    Unlike the new P/W, the Automate had a coupling and followed the traditional stroke up/down, not a continuous arm action.

    It was a good setup, I blew a couple of early lower capacity fuses, but otherwise it was good.

    I ended up with Spolar and their hydraulic unit.
     
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    I have a P/W 900 with the AutoDrive. I load all my 28's and .410's with it (3000 of each per year). It works great! P/W hit a home run with the AutoDrive! I just purchased a P/W 800 Plus because I am tired of changing the dies on the 900.

    If you are interested in a P/W hydraulic unit you had better get one now as P/W will be discontinuing it and only selling the AutoDrive.

    Jim Skeel

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  15. dverna

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    900 per hour on a Dillon? That is very hard to believe unless you have someone keeping the hull hopper filled; and powder, primers topped up.

    I have owned one. It was not a good machine.

    I did 700+/hr once with a PW 800+ with Case Feeder. NEVER again. It is not fun to reload at that pace.

    High2,

    Go with the Spolar. Buy once and be done with it. You will have the best and you can load an honest 500/hr without any heroics. Gauge changes are simple too.

    Don Verna
     
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    The electric drive for the Spolar, manufactured by P/W are as follows:<BR>
    1. Auto-Drive Spolar.......................... $849.95<BR>
    2. Auto-Drive Spolar w/ foot peddle... $895.95<BR>
    3. Auto-Drive Spolar with foot peddle added AFTER shipment as an add-on extra $85.00

    Whiz White
     
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    i have a used spolar for sale......$1400 and shipping if you live away from northen calif. ..... works fanstastic.... if your ready to buy a new one you already know how much it's going to cost you.....i have video and copy of owners manual....510 432-6273
     
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    I have used a Mec 9000h for years and a PW 800. My question is does the Spolar have any primer feed problems like the PW does? Bill
     
  20. higun

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    SBE & Don V.

    My experience is that you’re both mistaken.

    900 per hour is not believable regardless of how much help you may have but the Dillon is a great machine.
     
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