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E15,,,,,will we still have to use it????

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    I know that there are some manufacturers that will not warranty engines that use it.......
     
  2. Brian in Oregon

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    You subjects will do as King Obama commands and like it.
     
  3. LUGNUTZ426

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    There are many late model cars E85 capable that have the sticker and or yellow gas cap.(My Dodge Durango for instance) They can safely run any ethanol /gas mixture up to 85% alcohol. The computer automatically adjusts engine parameters for the fuel in the tank. The
    fuel handling components are of a higher anti corrosive resistance materials to deal with the alcohol/moisture absorbtion issue. Of course the more alcohol vs gas the poorer the fuel economy will be. There may also be some minor issues with extreme hot weather and high altitude performance.

    E15 will also cause lots more issues with boats, atv's lawn mower etc fuel systems due to corrosion issues and hot weather volitility. E10 has been keeping small engine/atv/boat repair shops busy replacing carbs and fuel pumps for the last 5 years or so.
     
  4. CharlieAMA

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    It ruins rubber fuel lines, diaphrams, floats etc. I burn only straight gas in my mowers and 4 wheeler. An ethanol plant is closing in Plainview, Texas next month, because of the high costs of corn.
     
  5. Kevin Fleming

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    Here in FL we don't get a choice.....
     
  6. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    No choice here but I know one guy who separates the gasoline from the ethanol to use in his boat. Anyone tried that?
     
  7. g7777777

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    The question becomes- do we want to use 15 percent less gasoline- be 15 percent less dependent on oil?

    Regards from Iowa

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  8. BILL GRILL

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    Another case of our politicians selling us down the river! This crap is getting old real fast. :)
     
  9. ou.3200

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    Adding 15% ethanol to gasoline does not save 15% gasoline. Experience with 10% shows a significant drop in mileage equaling the 10% additional ethanol in some vehicles. If you take a poll here you will see what the difference in mileage between gasoline and 10% ethanol/gasoline in the real world. All these formulas of the energy contained in gasoline vs ethanol/gasoline are theoretical and don't work out when actually run in real world cars. Ethanol is not the answer. All I ask is give us the choice 100% gasoline or whatever ethanol/gasoline mix that you want. We will vote with our $$$.
     
  10. Ray Brasser

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    If you want ethanol free gas go to http://pure-gas.org/ to find gas stations in your area that sell it.
     
  11. ou.3200

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    Already checked that website, nearest station is 100 miles+ away.
     
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    It is not a law that stations have to tell you if there is ethanal in the fuel.
     
  13. bigdogtx

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    So Gene,,,,,,does that corn just magically appear in the grain bins,,,,,,or does it take oil to power the tractors to till the soil; plant the seed; pull the cultivator; run the combine; drive the truck or tractor to the elevator; haul the corn to the plant and burn MORE gas as it is LESS efficient,,,,,,,yep we will use less oil.........
     
  14. bigdogtx

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    creek,,,,,,,you really should do some research on WHY ethanol is NOT profitable,,,,,,,,one of those reasons is demand and some of the others are listed above,,,,,,,,psst,,,,,,wonder why your grocery bill has gone up??????
     
  15. oskerspap12

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    Its pretty simple really.........the more ethanol in gasoline the less miles per gallon you get........now heres the simple part...........you have to fill up more often therefore you have to pay more tax at the pump......the more the govt collects(and spends) ...........this situation has nothing to do with the environment......just taxation.

    D.P.Reynolds
     
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