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Drugs and shotguns?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by APrice, Jan 30, 2012.

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  1. APrice

    APrice Active Member

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    A club I belong to recently expelled two members who were openly using what they called "pocket rockets" (Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta) as performance enhancing drugs while shooting. This brought to light the fact that many shooters with one malady or another shoot under the influence of various controlled substances (Vicodin, OxyContin, Vicoprofen, etc.) which may be as dangerous as, or more dangerous than shooting under the influence of alcohol. Most apparently think there isn't a problem because the medication was legally prescribed. Has the ATA or any of the various clay target shooting organizations addressed this problem? How can it be policed? Do you have a problem with shooting beside impaired individuals?
     
  2. Claymuncher

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    Please explain so we will know what the drugs mentioned are used for / Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta.



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  3. TOOLMAKER 251

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    If your going to mention all these drugs you mind as well add nicotine. I see people occasionally smoking between rounds.
     
  4. BigBadBob

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    Yes, I have a problem shooting beside or with people that are impared, if I know they are. Many clubs have rules against alcohol on site. I will NOT shoot with someone that I know has been drinking, nor will I shoot if I have been drinking. Guns and alcohol do not mix well.

    If you want to drink that's fine, just do it after the shooting is done for the day. I love a cold frosty Bud or 6 after I've been shooting.

    As far as prescribed medications I don't know if I could tell if someone is messed up with a slightly larger than prescribed dose.

    As far as illegal drugs are concerned, pot etc. I will not tolerate them anywhere. I am drug-tested regularly through my work and do not condone illegal drug use, PERIOD.
     
  5. trapshootin hippie

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    The only difference in legal and illegal drugs is the fact that the government makes money off the legal ones. That's what makes em legal.

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  6. Traders

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    Alcohol, which is the most commonly used mood altering drug in American is frequently sold at trap clubs.
    Since that's true, and will probably continue to be true for the forceable future, my guess is clubs should not get in the business of asking its membership "What kind of drugs, legal or otherwise, are you using.
     
  7. GrandpasArms

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    Ritalin, Adderall, Concerta

    These are amphetamines - speed.

    I understand that some people believe they need these drugs and that there are many who think narcotics are fine and necessary. Personally, though, I'd rather not be near people I suspect of being impaired - and the three drugs above will surely impair someone. I once reported an erratic shooter who smelled of booze. He was asked to leave. At other times I suspected that a shooter was acting strangely. I had no way of knowing if the shooter was under the influence or just goofy. In either case, I made sure to get the heck out of there.

    There might be rules, but they aren't enough for me. I come form 4+ decades in "the pharmacy business" and I can attest to the FACT that far too many of us take far too many drugs. Legal or otherwise. Maybe I'm just selfish, but I make it a point to look out for myself and stay out of harms way when possible. Good people sometimes make bad choices and end up killing other good people. These drugs are dangerous - and they are deadly when mixed inappropriately.

    Larry
     
  8. BigBadBob

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    This topic brings up another question. If medical Marijuana is used by the prescription holder and they have an accident at work. They cut off a finger or two with a saw or some other machinery. They go to the hospital and tell the admissions clerk they were hurt at work. Automatically this becomes a wrkmans comp case. Automatically also, work comp will require a alcohil and drug test. The injured person test positive for marijuana. Would wrok comp then be expected to cover this injury??

    I know for sure if someone was waiting to join my squad and was toking up on his "medical" joint, I'll be damned if I would shoot with him.
     
  9. shannon391

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    Why in the world would someone want to shoot Trap on a strong stimulant? A cup of strong coffee would blow my score.
     
  10. BigBadBob

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    Because some people are stupid, and are accidents waiting to happen.
     
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    <blockquote>"Why in the world would someone want to shoot Trap on a strong stimulant?"</blockquote>

    ...because all three are used to treat attention deficit disorder, narcolepsy and certain heart aliments.

    Keller
     
  12. Stl Flyn

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    I think there should be a special drug sensoring urinal at every trap. As the shooters file through, a quick pee into it, and when the light goes green you can proceed, red means your dead and lost. It has to be out in the open, so that the monitors can see if you are pouring it from a hidden source. What do you think?
     
  13. Tron

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    Opiates as Rx drugs are completely and totally out of control in this country. It is mind boggling how many people are addicted.....you would be shocked! Florida is famous for their bullshit "pain clinic" laws that allow just about anyone who claims to be in some sort of discomfort to get a hold of some incredibly powerful medication.

    It's a BIG and growing problem!

    Jb
     
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    I was thinking a hit of Viagra might be kind of handy. It would give me a place to lean my gun between rounds and I wouldn't have to use those public gun racks!
     
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    Much more prevalent that anyone can imagine and not restricted to wannabees!!
     
  16. Johnny

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    Don't see how amphetamines could improve trap scores. I would expect the opposite.

    tumbleweed, keep the wood on the wood.
     
  17. Traders

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    If we don't want "drugs" being used at the trap range, why should some ranges sell alcohol? My guess is that most of us think that alcohol is ok because they use it judiciously That's what people who use other mood altering drugs say.
     
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    If we don't want "drugs" being used at the trap range, why should some ranges sell alcohol? My guess is that most of us think that alcohol is ok because they use it judiciously That's what people who use other mood altering drugs say.
     
  19. trapshootin hippie

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    Viagra usage should not be allowed while shooting trap. Too many wasted targets from bumpinmg into the speaker stands.

    GneJ
     
  20. quartering

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    stl flyn, if trap rotations aren't slow enough, imagine having to wait on five old guys to pee for a drug test
     
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