1. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.
    Dismiss Notice

Driving in VA...be careful!

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by grnberetcj, Jul 2, 2007.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. grnberetcj

    grnberetcj Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    5,680
    For all those that will be attending the VA state shoot.....pay attention to your driving.

    Curt - Delaware

    http://news.aol.com/story/_a/virginians-face-3000-traffic-ticket/20070701103509990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001
     
  2. grnberetcj

    grnberetcj Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    5,680
    I got the info from a friend that is a retired VA Trooper, he didn't advise whether or not it was a "resident only" thing. He was irate at the state's legislators as the money is to be used for the northern VA area only.

    Curt - Delaware
     
  3. lumper

    lumper TS Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2007
    Messages:
    3,586
    From the first paragraph ... "the state will start hitting residents who commit serious traffic offenses with huge civil penalties"

    From farther down in the article ... "The civil penalties apply only to Virginia residents, not out-of-state drivers. Virginians must pay in three installments over 26 months or lose their licenses."


    It's only for residents of the great COMMONWEALTH of Virginia ... feriners are safe so drive as fast and as recklessly as you desire through the Commonwealth of Virginia.
     
  4. recurvyarcher

    recurvyarcher Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2006
    Messages:
    6,450
    Glad I don't live in Virginia...
     
  5. lumper

    lumper TS Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2007
    Messages:
    3,586
    It will only effect those that are not traffic law abiding citizens.
     
  6. rooferbob

    rooferbob Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,474
    Location:
    Hamilton Ohio
    I read an article somewhere stating that Georgia is doing the same thing with large fines for speeding!
     
  7. C H S

    C H S TS Member

    Joined:
    Aug 13, 2006
    Messages:
    244
    "feriners are safe so drive as fast and as recklessly as you desire through the Commonwealth of Virginia."

    Most states have laws where if you get a ticket in another state, you will have to pay the fine and get the other penalties that the same violation would get you in YOUR state. It may not cost as much but it is sure to cost you more than nothing.

    Andy
     
  8. lumper

    lumper TS Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2007
    Messages:
    3,586
    "The civil penalties apply only to Virginia residents, not out-of-state drivers. Virginians must pay in three installments over 26 months or lose their licenses. The state Legislature didn't think it could enforce the extra penalties in other states."

    Once again ... feriners are safe so drive as fast and recklessly as you desire through the Commonwealth of Virginia cause ya aints gots to worry about Trooper Billy Bubb or his cousin Officer Billy Bob nailin ya for the high dollar resident fines but ya gets the cheaper guest fee's instead.
     
  9. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 5, 2006
    Messages:
    10,650
    The promoter of the legislation was also an attorney whose firm specializes in traffic laws. Little conflict of interest......?
     
  10. lumper

    lumper TS Member

    Joined:
    Feb 26, 2007
    Messages:
    3,586
    How would that be a conflict of interest? Did he promote the legislation while thinking that if it passes his firm could get hundreds if not thousands of clients wanting to retain there service for $2500 to fight a $1000 speeding ticket???
     
  11. pyrdek

    pyrdek Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,296
    There are two things about this that I question.

    1. How long before the law of unintended consequences catches up? How many more high-speed chases will take place when someone, who is already impaired/, decides that he can outrun the cop trying to stop him? Alternatively, what if he decides that taking the cop "out" will save the driver several thousand dollars once you take the civil forfeiture and add in the lawyer fees, court costs, and whatever else is tacked on?

    2. this law lowers the standard from "beyond a reasonable doubt", the criminal standard, to "a preponderance" of the evidence", the civil court standard?

    In a civil case you "have" (don't believe that really now do you?) to prove that the plaintiff suffered damages that can be compensated by financial reimbursement. What are the financially reimbursable damages that the state has suffered because an individual may have been speeding or drinking? Yes, the damages caused by this person when he/she crashes are actual financial damages but what is the damage done by the simple act of speeding or drinking?
     
  12. Gargoyle!

    Gargoyle! TS Member

    Joined:
    Apr 27, 2007
    Messages:
    980
    These new driving fines are going to be going to court and some are already lined up at the court doors. There are people here in Va who are going to fight it. To punish on group of drivers and let others go is not right and to fine them like this is over kill. Second to send the money only to northern Va is also wrong. All they are going to do is piss the wrong people off.
     
  13. Quack Shot

    Quack Shot Active Member

    Joined:
    Mar 14, 2006
    Messages:
    4,003
    What else is new? They voted in another Democrat for Governor and this is what they got. What ever happened to that Billion Dollar surplus they had a few years ago when they overtaxed their redidents? What happened to the abolishment of Vehicle Property Taxes? This is a new "tax" of sorts, but I doubt it will pass the scrutiny of a higher court. The main reason is blatant discrimination against the Commonwealth's residents.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.