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Dram Equivalent Federal 12ga Trap Shells

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Geoff W, May 22, 2011.

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  1. Geoff W

    Geoff W TS Member

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    I have been buying Federal 12 ga, 3 dram eq., 1. 1.8 oz, 7.5 shot for 3 years.
    I recently bought two cases that said 2 3/4 dram eq. and a reduction of muzzle
    speed from 1200 fps to 1145 fps. But the same amount of shot and the same shot
    size.

    What does dram eq. have to do with muzzle speed?

    Is the slower speed of these shells too slow for hitting the clays at 16 yd?
    Thanks.

    Geoff Weaver
     
  2. W.P.T.

    W.P.T. TS Member

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    Less powder, means less speed, less recoil, but remember Speed Kills ... No problem for 16 yards and shorter yardage ... There are some people who shoot 2 3/4 dram from the 27 yardline with some success ... There was a guy last year at the Grand who was shooting them from long yardage and won $100,000 ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  3. bluskyshooter

    bluskyshooter Active Member

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    Geoff,
    Dram equivalent is another way of saying - how much powder is in the shell. Higher dram # means more powder - thus higher velocity.
     
  4. Ross

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    Geoff W. They're a little bit slower muzzle velocity but you (and most people) probably couldn't tell the difference as far as shooting them from the 16 yard line, maybe a mite less recoil. Try-em bet you'll like-em. Ross Puls
     
  5. Kingranch

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    A dram is a measure of volume. 1 dram = 3.7 ml. This term is a hold over from the days when black powder was measure by volume. All smokeless powders should always be weighed, even though all loaders meter the powder by volume.

    Hope this helped.

    KingRanch
     
  6. Tom Strunk

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    The 2 3/4 dram shell is what most people shoot from the 16 yard line. By accident you now have the perfered shell, stick with it if possible.

    Tom Strunk
     
  7. 1oldtimer

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    Rick, 7-1/2 or 8s
     
  8. DMC

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    "A dram is a measure of volume. 1 dram = 3.7 ml. This term is a hold over from the days when black powder was measure by volume. All smokeless powders should always be weighed, even though all loaders meter the powder by volume.

    Hope this helped.

    KingRanch "



    You are citing the Apothocaries’ Dram, which is a measure of volume and is equal to 3.69+ Milliliters. This was not used to measure Black Powder. That was measured with the Avoirdupois Dram, which equals 27.34375 Grains. Black Powder was never measured by volume. It was, and is, dispensed by volume, but that volume is determined by weight.

    DC
     
  9. shot410ga

    shot410ga Well-Known Member

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    Dram and smokeless powder do not compute. I don't know why companies continue to use the term with smokeless powder.
     
  10. valmet

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    hi, been shooting and relosading top guns for years . the 3 Dram shells have 18 grains of powder(looks like red dot without the dots) the 2 3/4 dram have 16 grains. same powder. good shells in my opinion. dennis
     
  11. DMC

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    "DRAM EQUIVALENT" has absolutely nothing to do with powder weight. It is an indication of VELOCITY.

    DC
     
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