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****DOWN RANGE VS. WINCHESTER WADS****

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by flyfish, Feb 9, 2009.

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  1. flyfish

    flyfish Member

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    I have been using Winchester WAA12SL (Pink) 1 oz. wads. The cost at my local supplier is $100 for 5,000. How do Downrange Jammer XL1 ( 1oz. purple) and Downrange XL1 (1 oz. green) compare? They are currently priced at $75.00 for 5,000.

    Any other suggestions? Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Trap2

    Trap2 Well-Known Member

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    Flyfish.... I have used all three you just mentioned and I have found that the XL-1 to be the better wad of the bunch. They pattern better out of my DB-81 Combo than the other 2, and they reload like a hot knife cutting thru butter. I definately like them, and prefer them to the Winchesters.....Just my ecperience.... Dan Thome (Trap2)
     
  3. RAU

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    I use the Downrange XL-1 (green)as a replacement for the WAA 12SL. I like the XL-1 very much, I have less plastic buildup in the bore and they do pattern great. The Xl-1 does wiegh less than the WAA 12SL. This could explain the 10 to 12 fps more with all other components the same. I do NOT load near max so I do not worry so much about pressure differences. If you like to load closer to the 11500 psi pressure I would suggest using the loads from the Downrange manual. I think you would be very happy with the XL-1.

    Thanks....Rick
     
  4. WoodsonEnt

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    I am a Downrange dealer! I load both the Jammer XL-1 and the XL-1 Green. Both are great wads, with the XL-1 green being my favorite. You can get them from me for $72.00 a case.


    Matt - Woodson Enterprises
    Phone: (270) 804-5454
     
  5. 101voodoo

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    Flyfish, buy the Green XL-1s and don't look back. Great wads.

    The Jammers are a PITA to load. I know people will say to put them in the dryer, etc. Tried that, still a PITA.

    Jim
     
  6. timb99

    timb99 Well-Known Member

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    Green XL-1 wads work fine, and load easier in my machine than the Winchester or Claybuster wads.

    I've been using them since they were burgundy colored.

    Worth your while to at least give them a try. You'll like them.
     
  7. OldGoat

    OldGoat Well-Known Member

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    I switched to DownRange wads for all of the reasons posted by others above. I use the DR XXL7/8 and DR XL1...great products! Regards, Ed
     
  8. PerazziBigBore

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    I have no problem loading any wad.. but the DRXXL and XL wads are the #1 wads in my book.. I've extensively tested all of them last summer.. 8000 24 gram shells.. with every wad one can easily obtain here.. The XL and XXL are at the top of the list..along with the Federal 12SO.. Everything else fell shy in long range light payload performance. I must say.. that once you get in the 35 yard range or shorter.. it really did not matter much.. Just about all of them performed good. but stretch that to 45 and 50 yards..its a whole different story.. While we are here.. don't forget the Versalite wad for 1 1/8oz payloads.. it just plumb works great..even from the parking lot..
    Surprisingly.. out of the Federal throw away hulls..and paper,and Cheddite.. the Nobel 1 oz wad did extremely well too. They did not load well..or easily in a Remington or AA hull.
     
  9. lancelot

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    Downrange's XL-1 (neon green) could be the best 1 oz. wad on the market. The product manager of a large US powder company told me he uses them, and that's plenty for me.

    Ron Ireland
     
  10. 1dudley

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    Matt Woodson - you have a PM. Doug
     
  11. WoodsonEnt

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    1dudley,

    Returned your PM.

    Matt
     
  12. jagrdawger

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    +1 more for the XL-1. That is my favorite for 16-20 yard. I use the XL118 for longer. I was amazed at the difference in LACK plastic build up compared to OEM and other clones.
     
  13. jmdmt

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    Reading all the replies and I have a question. One thread talkes of a Downrange Manual, if thats so where and how can a person pick one up?
     
  14. BIG PAPA

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    I vote for the neon green one also. I use it with 1 oz and 1 1/16 oz loads. Loads great with promo, wolf primers and hard shot in remington hulls.
     
  15. BIG PAPA

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    You can go to Downranges website and get the material you are requesting.
     
  16. Clay KillR

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    +1 for the Neon Green Downrange DR-XL-1. Cleaner than Greendusters. I compared them with the J-XL-1 and found I broke one target more per round with the DR-XL-1.
     
  17. Quack Shot

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    Downrange does, or did, make a direct replacement for the WAA12SL wad. Unfortunately, their website is seriously out of date, so there is no info listed for it. No link to the loading data, but if you search some old threads they had one up for awhile.
     
  18. Old Texas Marine

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    The direct replacement for the WAA12SL is DRA-12 Pink 1 oz. They make a DRA-12 White which is the WAA12 replacement.

    I would like to know if those who have used both the DR-XL-1 and the DRA-12 Pink have a preference. I've used up almost 5,000 of the DRA-12 Pink and when I reorder I am wondering if I should try the XL-1 wad or is there any real difference?

    HBT
     
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