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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by STEAM146, Mar 27, 2013.

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  1. STEAM146

    STEAM146 TS Member

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    I am currently shooting trap left handed and scoring in low 20's for singles. However, I am right eye dominant. I have been shooting for a couple years. I am thinking about purchasing a new trap gun and am wondering if I will be making a mistake if I putchase a left hand model. How important is it to shoot on the sholder of the dominant eye. How did this change scoring and how long did it take to get comfortable with those who made the change? I'm struggling with the thought of making the chhange.
     
  2. RobertT

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    If your not afflicted by anything other than left handed, right eye dominant I'd learn to shoot right handed. Far greater choice of right hand guns available and you will potentially be able to shoot with both eyes instead of one.

    How long will it take? Were all different! I can change from right to left at will and break birds. The hardest hurdle is developing the same insensitivity to recoil on my weak side.

    Robert
     
  3. emmylou1

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    I too am a lefty,with a right master eye.After a lot of ups and downs l now have made my left eye strong by a patch on my right eye watching TV etc.l now can shoot with two eyes and do keep a sight blinder
    On the rib just behind the bead so my right eye don't get any ideas.
    I swear two eyes is a must.Harlan Jr.told me in his class,
    Close one eye= half blind,on a good day I can run them.l hope I've helped,l love the game and have some of the nicest people.....Wisc.
     
  4. targetchip

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    Steam, the best is to try shooting from your right side to shoot both eyes open.

    Many can switch many don't If is hard for you then you can get an XDS that will allow you to shoot from your left side and use binocular vision in the same time.

    Good luck!
     
  5. bevolt

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    I switched from left to right due to right eye dominance. The transition took about a year, but I wasn't shooting very much.
     
  6. targetchip

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    bevolt,

    After you switched to your right shoulder did you shoot with both eyes open???

    If not, is no reason the switch!
     
  7. STEAM146

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    Please explain targetchip. I am trying to decide if the change to the dominant eye is worth the effort. Is the dominant eye only applicible if you shoot with both eyes open?

    Thanks

    Alan
     
  8. mauserfan

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    I feel your pain. I shoot right and am left eye dominant. I use a pair of safety glasses and lightly sanded the left lens where my pupil would sight down the barrel - about the size of a nickel or so. I can start to track with the help of my left eye but when my eye moves to start looking down the barrel, it is obstructed by the blurred lens and the right eye is then dominant. It has helped my shooting of clays. Have a great Easter. Mauser
     
  9. targetchip

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    STEAM,

    Once you are diagnosed with eye cross dominance that means that your master eye is on the other side of your handedness!

    What to do:

    1)keep shooting from your handedness side but close your master eye
    2)switch sides to mount the gun at your master eye

    On nr 1 situation your vision is cut down to monocular vision( one eyed shooting)
    on Nr 2 situation you can shoot both eyes open b/c your gun is lined up with your master eye.

    Switching side and shooting with one eye closed will put you in the Nr 1 situation+ you have to build up muscle memory for your non handedness side.

    There is a 3 situation on which you can use an XDS device that will allow you to shoot from your handedness side and keep both eyes open.
    Just go to my website under my forum name!
     
  10. STEAM146

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    targetchip,

    I checked out your website. It's very intersting. I currently shoot with only one eye. When I try both eyes I can't hit a barn door. Again I'm left handed but right eye dominant. I move to shoulder the gun right handed (one eye) the past couple weeks. I hit low 20s from both sides. It looks like I need to move to both eyes open. Any suggestions to making the both eye conversions. I have only tried it a few times but it doesn't feel at all comfortable.

    Thanks

    Alan
     
  11. targetchip

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    I repeat, if you switch shoulders to line up the gun with your master eye then you should practice the two eyed shooting.This is the only reason to switch sides and build up a new muscle memory for you non handedness side!!!

    If you switch and you close one eye is no reason for that b/c anyway you shoot with one eye from your handedness side!

    Shooting from your handedness side( left) and using one eye you don;t have to build up a new muscle memory!

    If you switch and try to shoot with both eyes, then learn to ignore the " ghost" barrel
    and stay with the real one! It is hard but it can be done and takes time.

    If you struggle then get an XDS that will allow you to shoot from your handedness side and use both of your eyes to establish the gun- target relationship The XDS eliminates the " handicap" of being eye cross dominant or
    cross firing instantly.

    Many are doing it successfully with the XDS.
     
  12. STEAM146

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    I hear you. I plan to try master eys shoulder with both eyes open tomorrow night. How long does it take to grasp the two eye shooting for someone (me) who typically shootrs with one eye?

    Thanks

    Alan
     
  13. targetchip

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    You need a lot of determination. First you need to build up a new muscle memory and gun handling on the dominant eye side, second, to shoot both eyes open.

    Beside the range shooting you need dry drills to select the right barrel to establish the gun target relationship, but once you succeed, the advantages of shooting using both eyes are evident.

    How long, depend on you.It can take months to years until you get there.

    It is your choice! If you feel that is too hard, then get an XDS.You get the same advantages like switching shoulders( two eyed shooting) less new muscle memory building!
     
  14. Full N. Fuller

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    Until you quit seeing where the barrel is when you are shooting you will find it impossible to shoot with both eyes open (without tape on your lens or some other blocking device, which is not really shooting "with both eyes open"), regardless of which shoulder you shoot on.

    When you quit seeing the barrel and see only the target you will find it easy to shoot with both eyes open, regardless of which shoulder you shoot on.

    Eye dominance has about as much to do with hitting the target as eye color, once you are shooting the correct way.
     
  15. targetchip

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    Full N Fll,

    it is impossible to ignore the barrel totally that's B/C we have the gun in our peripheral vision when we shoot!

    Keeping the visual focus on the target and the gun in the peripheral vision will help us to connect to the target and establish the sight picture.

    B/C we can't eliminate the gun from our peripheral vision the eye cross dominance
    is a big problem to line up the gun correctly and establish the gun target relationship.

    First,trying to shoot with both eyes, you need to have the gun beneath the Master eye, second, you have to ignore the ghost barrel by working with the " right" barrel.
    Indeed if you use a dot or tape, that's not shooting with two eyes even both eyes are open.The dot tape will cut the two eyed shooting to one eyed shooting!

    The big difference between the dot, tape, and the XDS is that the XDS allows

    both eyes to see the target( two eyed shooting),therefore the XDS is not a total blocker but a semi blocker. Will limit the master eye to see the barrel but in same time will allow it to see the target!

    The XDS will fix not only the eye cross dominant handicap, but also the cross firing phenomenon.

    The concept on which the XDS was created is on the website
     
  16. targetchip

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    STEAM said:" I'm struggling with the thought of making the change."

    So, what is your choice?
     
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