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Does Soros Want Congress To Raise The Debt Limit?

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by WS-1, Jul 17, 2011.

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  1. WS-1

    WS-1 Banned User Banned

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    YES or NO? Any "independent thinkers" out there?
     
  2. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    Yes, how else will he turn us into a socialist nation. Bulge.
     
  3. smsnyder

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    If your credit card or credit is maxed out does it make sense to put on more debt?
     
  4. Hal1225

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    The Gov's card is never maxed out. How did we go from millions to billions to trillions. What comes after trillions. It's how Warren Buffet, Bill Gates and Soros got to hoard the billions in the first place. More people in the world more money needed, but do they need billions when millions should suffice. The bottom line is the Federal Reserve Bank is the most secret, largest, powerful and richest privately owned bank in the world and Congress plays second fiddle to it.
    They control and manipulate the interest and supply of dollars and therefore control the country. Who are these people?

    Harry
     
  5. timberfaller

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    He's already on record, wanting to "destroy" the American dollar.

    What more do you need to know about the creep?
     
  6. The Literalist

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    What kind of stupid-assed post is this?
     
  7. WS-1

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    Take two aspirin and call me in the morning.
     
  8. WS-1

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    Come on, guys. Wake up. As a Nation, where are we the most vulnerable?
     
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    The Public School system.
     
  10. WS-1

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    How about our ability to defend ourselves if we are broke?
     
  11. mrskeet410

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    It really doesn't matter to him. If we get a reduced credit rating from not raisingt it, in the short term he wins. If we raise it and print more worthless "money", he wins.

    However, if we lose our AAA rating for a short time and get our financial house in order, we can restore our AAA rating in months. Then Obama is a sad chapter in American history and we have the best chance at winning.

    The reality is that without raising the debt limit we fall about $130 billion short of meeting our financial obligations each month so we MUST raise it. BUT we must put in place drastic spending cuts and a spending cap in order to restore our financial security and monetary soundness. A "Balanced Budget Amendment" is not as critical as a vigilant electorate which will no longer tolerate profligate spending. A better Amendment would be term limits.
     
  13. mrskeet410

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    "A better Amendment would be term limits."

    I could agree with that.
     
  14. Rick Barker

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    I would favor not only term limits, but also, balanced budget amendment and a flat percentage on all income, regardless if you make 1,000.00 or 1,000,000,000,000.00 a year. That would include estate and business incomes.

    You cannot hope to limit excess spending unless you limit income as well.

    You could make such an amendment allow for increasing the tax rate in the event of declared war by Congress and not include the War Powers Act.

    It would also teach Congress that limiting their source of income with tax limitations, would inspire them to repeal business limiting laws. More businessess, more workers, more taxpayers, more income, means more revenue.
     
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    We're asking CONGRESS to self-impose an arbitrary GOVERNMENT debt limit because "we" spent too much. REALLY?? What is this debt limit anyway? Why don't they just go "American Express" and forget about a debt ceiling with a subsequent credit rating tied to it. That way government can keep spending like crazy and when the SHTF, they can print tons of additional "money" to cover the cost and then go to war to cull out much of the "dependent classes" when things really get tight. For liberals this has worked great for generations. Sadly, one out of every two people you talk to today are perfectly fine with this and will gladly re-elect this philosophy time and again. Soros/Liberal/Statist elites know this: eventually governments can't keep spending more money so they need to spend the same money on fewer people. How?,.. government controlled "health care" for starters. These "social" policies ensure their hold on power. In WWII, the world lost over 20 million people, and we coincidentally experienced a "post-war economic boom". This isn't rocket science just a different group of saviors running the same plays.
     
  16. Hal1225

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    Term Limits, replace the (Jewish) controlled private Federal Reserve Bank with a New People Elected Government owned Federal National Bank that won't need to pay interest on it's own money to China or anyone else. Stop changing interest rates every time Bernanke farts. Mortgages should be affordable, I thought there were usury laws to protect people. Try getting a loan for your small business from the Small Business Administration. Try bidding on a Government Contract. It's OK for Good Hands to take 4-5 years to pay a car accident settlement, but your credit rating which gets destroyed in the meantime never gets corrected. Then apply for a mortgage and see if you qualify. You qualify @ 16% VAR only. You can't fight city hall so go trapshooting instead.

    Harry
     
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    Why don't they just print a one 15 trillion dollar bill and pay er off?
     
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    If the markets gave any weight to the ratings agencies the markets would already be in a panic. Instead they are yawning. These are the same rating agencies that called bundled mortgage securities made to people who were utterly incapable of paying them triple A. If they had accurately called those bundled mortgage securities what they were - junk- the crash of '08 would probably never have happened. It just may be the day and age of credit ratings agencies is over. They have never been held to accountability for their demonstrable role in fleecing the American people and congress seems to be fine with their betrayal of trust. The markets however, so far at least, don't seem to see their opinions as worthy of note.
     
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    Does Grover Norequist want Congress to raise the debt limit?

    blade819
     
  20. John Galt

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    Why not ask him yourself blade918?
     
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