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Do You Want Congress To Raise The Debt Ceiling?

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by WS-1, Jul 13, 2011.

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  1. WS-1

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    Yes or No?
     
  2. halfmile

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    I want them to raise the debt ceiling by the amount of cuts they put in in existing programs.

    They cut a billion, we raise a billion.

    And I mean right now, not some pie in the sky future promise. To be accompanied by a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution.

    These would be REAL cuts in existing expenditures, not the reductions in future spending they call "cuts"

    Fat chance.

    HM
     
  3. RAScott

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    NO, Stop giving our money to forein countries and end forien aid immediatly. Cut entitlement programs Immediatly. if we get spending under control there will not be a need to raise the ceiling. We have signed so many bad treaties in the past that we are comitted to giving away our money, We have whored out our country and its soverenty. Time to cut up the credit cards and stop waisting MY money.


    A few ways to save some money


    1;Gut the EPA overpowered peckerheads


    2;Flat tax,ie, consumption tax (shitcan the IRS)


    3;Let these goverment workers know that they work for US, not, we are their servants


    4;Gut the amtrack either make money, or freight only, it would save wear and tear on our roads and bridges


    5; give our military a long overdue raise


    6; term limits!!! so cushy, soft, back room deals will be less likely

    Bob S
     
  4. Setterman

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    No. Decrease spending.
     
  5. School Teacher

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    In the short term, yes. A default or near default will result in a lowered credit rating which will in turn raise prevailing interest rates on everything from soup to nuts.

    In the long term, we need a balanced budget amendment, significantly reduced Federal spending, a rollback of many regulations and a 20% cut in government employees.

    Could this possibly happen under our current president?

    Ed Ward
     
  6. timberfaller

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    No no and NO !

    There is a youtube out there showing what 39 Republicans and 41 democrats have given themselves in raise's to their overall income. The Republicans raised theirs 169% while the Democrats 780% plus!!

    Its not against the law for them to use "insider" trading and information they learn when it comes to Wall Street!

    Part of the information on them is called "the list"

    Its all their names and what percentage they have bumped up their worth!
     
  7. Brian in Oregon

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    No. Do not raise the debt ceiling.

    No. Do not raise taxes.

    Yes. Cut spending.

    Yes. Cut entitlements.

    Yes. Deport illegal aliens.

    Yes. Cut all federal, state and local aid of any kind to illegal aliens.

    Yes. Start piss tests for welfare recipients.

    Yes. Start cutting government jobs, first by retirement, and by not filling vacant positions.

    Yes. Stop creating new layers of bureaucracy.

    Yes. Get rid of the lying jackass in the White House.
     
  8. 22hornet

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    Pretty much what Brian said.
     
  9. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    NO. Make cuts from welfare. No free housing. Make the lazy bastards do public service work for their welfare checks. Bulge.
     
  10. halfmile

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    RAScott: I hope you know Social Security and Medicare are considered "entitlements" now by the fatheads in DC.

    The Social Security Trust Fund has been stolen and the money is no longer there.

    Payments out are made from current income. Same thing with Medicare.

    The Liar-In-Chief threatened Social Security yesterday. "We might not be able to pay out the Social Security beneefits if a deal is not reached."

    Wek have to cut all non-essential spending and get rid of the debt. It is imprative that we esect leaders comitted to this cause. This is the only way we can restore our nation to its former level of prestige.

    HM
     
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    NO!!! I can't run my Shop year after year by borrowing. I have to cut back somewhere and the federal government should do the same.
     
  13. mrskeet410

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    Too bad the Democrats control the Senate. But if the fruitcakes had not taken over the "tea parties" in Nevada and Delaware we would have a Republican Senate too. With a Republican congress a bill could be sent to the president to sign or veto.
     
  14. g7777777

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    No lets roll the dice

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
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    NO NO No No NO NO NO NO NO No !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    How many times have you been around a spoiled rotten kid, i.e. shopping, church,movie, etc.. Seems like the more the kid yells & screams and annoys everyone within hearing distance, the more the parents give in to solve the symptom not the problem. Well our fearless/dignity-less politicians continue to do just that. They don't have the guts to do whats right and fix the problem. They will however sell they're soul and our country just to retain they're royal position of power. Not NO but H@## NO!!!!!!!!!
     
  17. sliverbulletexpress

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    Raising the debt ceiling is doing the same thing once again and expecting a different result. That is the definition of what?

    So many pundits are advocating doing it just one more time, idiots, sounds like something a junkie would ask for.
     
  18. cubancigar2000

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    Raising it seems to be the normal for the U.S. It is time to fix what caused it to get where it is, however the economy is bad enough now so not raising it right now will bring it to its knees. There are solutions but I feel the issue is political now. The Repubs want to make Obama look as nad as possible so he does not get re elected and Obamas motive is he wants to be the hero so he does get elected. We have seen nothing yet so buckle your seatbelts because it is going to be scary
     
  19. ou.3200

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    HM has it right in his first post. Raise the debt limit only by the amount of cuts in spending but on a month by month basis. Include measures in the House bill funding Social Security, defense, and obligations, etc. to take those items off the table and make the Dems either pass it in the Senate or go on record voting against it. Call Obama's bluff that he is screaming about.
     
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    No, I read somewhere that Obozo is already planning another increase in the debt limit, before this one is decided on, as said before the gummit is like a junky on drugs, Please, just one more main liner and I'll quit, the assholes in Washington cannot quit with out serious rehab
     
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