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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Guy, May 12, 2010.

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  1. Guy

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    http://www.reuters.com/article/politicsNews/idUSTRE59E0Q920091015


    U.S.Reverses Stance on Treaty to Regulate Arms Trade

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The United States reversed policy on Wednesday and said it would back launching talks on a treaty to regulate arms sales as long as the talks operated by consensus, a stance critics said gave every nation a veto.

    The decision, announced in a statement released by the U.S. State Department, overturns the position of former President George W. Bush's administration, which had opposed such a treaty on the grounds that national controls were better.

    On Wednesday Obama Took the First Major Step in a Plan to Ban All Firearms in the United States . The Obama administration intends to force gun control and a complete ban on all weapons for US citizens through the signing of international treaties with foreign nations. By signing international treaties on gun control, the Obama administration can use the US State Department to bypass the normal legislative process in Congress. Once the US Government signs these international treaties, all US citizens will be subject to those gun laws created by foreign governments. These are laws that have been developed and promoted by organizations such as the United Nations and individuals such as George Soros and Michael Bloomberg. The laws are designed and intended to lead to the complete ban and confiscation of all firearms.

    The Obama administration is attempting to use tactics and methods of gun control that will inflict major damage to our 2nd Amendment before US citizens even understand what has happened. Obama can appear before the public and tell them that he does not intend to pursue any legislation (in the United States) that will lead to new gun control laws, while cloaked in secrecy, his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton is committing the US to international treaties and foreign gun control laws. Does that mean Obama is telling the truth? What it means is that there will be no publicized gun control debates in the media or votes in Congress. We will wake up one morning and find that the United States has signed a treaty that prohibits firearm and ammunition manufacturers from selling to the public. We will wake up another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that prohibits any transfer of firearm ownership. And then, we will wake up yet another morning and find that the US has signed a treaty that requires US citizens to deliver any firearm they own to the local government collection and destruction center or face imprisonment.

    This is not a joke nor a false warning. As sure as government health care will be forced on us by the Obama administration through whatever means necessary, so will gun control.

    Please forward this message to others who may be concerned about the direction in which our country is headed.







    We are being led like a lamb to the slaughter (Socialism/Dictatorship).
     
  2. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Our Founding Fathers are rolling in their graves.
     
  3. halfmile

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    There is no smoke coming out of NRA sources on this to my knowledge.

    HM
     
  4. JACK

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    Every democrat in Pennsylvannia and Wisconsin would become a republican. And in every other hunting state as well.

    Don't get me wrong... It is the intent of liberals to rid the world of large and small arms. But can Eric HOlder figure out a way to do it? Or Obama? I dont' think so. I doubt even a left leaning SCOTUS would overturn the basic second ammendment. do you have any idea the financial impact tht would have on the US? the libs arelosing the battle to regain jobs in the US. And they will do nothing more to send others to the food line. (Oh, I am soooo wrong about that)
     
  5. no5shooter

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    Come on, people. We've been over this sixth-grade civics lesson before. The "US Government" or the State Department cannot bind the US to any agreement arbitrarily. Treaties have to be ratified by the US Senate before they're binding on the US. Does anyone really think the Senate will ratify a treaty like this?
     
  6. Tripod

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    They will never ever let men marry men in Iowa either.
     
  7. dverna

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    You are correct. This is pure BS. Crap like this makes us look STUPID.

    The President alone cannot bind us to any Treaties.

    Don Verna
     
  8. Rimfirejim

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    "While it is not true that all conservatives are stupid people,it is most certainly true that most stupid people are conservative". You proved the quote again. Jim
     
  9. The Stive

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    We can only hope and petition the senate to not ratify any such treaty.
    John
     
  10. JohnBT

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    The posted e-mail is from last October. It's been hashed and rehashed on every board and probably this one.

    The linked Reuter's article gives some details including the statement, "The U.S. lobbying group the National Rifle Association has also opposed the treaty."


    The primary concern is that it will be used to deny small arms (military arms smaller than tanks, etc.) to Israel and other friends of ours.


    "Nations would remain in charge of their arms export control arrangements but would be legally obliged to assess each export against criteria agreed under the treaty. Governments would have to authorize transfers in writing and in advance.

    The main opponent of the treaty in the past was the U.S. Bush administration, which said national controls were better. Last year, the United States accounted for more than two-thirds of some $55.2 billion in global arms transfer deals.

    Arms exporters China, Russia and Israel abstained last year in a U.N. vote on the issue."

    John
     
  11. Paladin

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    The republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.

    Liberals are a disgrace.

    Specifically you, rimfingeridiot, hussein loving disgrace..


    "The main opponent of the treaty in the past was the U.S. Bush administration, which said national controls were better."


    Exactly where does hussein stand, rimfingeridiot. WHERE??
     
  12. melbournemike

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    This treaty is about international arms sales not private gun ownership! It is about RPG's triple A and cannons!
     
  13. halfmile

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    I think you better get a copy, they have small arms in there too.

    NRA called me last night on it.

    This is about defanging the last bastion of Liberty and Individual Rights, The United states of America.

    Fema camps are real and so is the arms ban, they are just juggling pieces around on the chessboard for the next series of moves. They have already just about killed the monetary system of 80 percent of the Caucasian nations, and when those governments collapse the New World Order folks will be right there to "Help us out".

    The Elite will have, and the middle class will have a new title - "The Working Poor".

    You will know it for sure when the United States ceases to attract people from the rest of the world in search of a better life.

    Get your stuff in order.

    HM
     
  14. halfmile

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    Better read the link. The 2006 UN resolution, opposed by the Bush administration, is to control the supply of "Small Arms and Light Weapons".

    How long do you think the pukes will wait to stick that one in our craw? In case you didn't know it, small arms and light weapons are what we shoot trap and skeet, and hunt with.

    Once it's on, the feces will be in the rotary oscillator.

    HM
     
  15. 3on8

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    The day the treaty is signed, it becomes the day that we all take to the streets and reclaim our libberties. We will get rid of our existing government and create a new one. We would have no other choice.
     
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