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Do thumbsucking unions care about the children?

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by crusha, Feb 19, 2011.

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  1. crusha

    crusha TS Member

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    ...because the Wisconsin teacher thing would seem to tell me they don't...
     
  2. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

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    Its all about intitlements the union has promised them!!

    Organized crime is just that,"organized"

    I get a kick out of teachers belly acking about their pay while their talking heads at the top of the NEA get almost a half million dollars in pay to go around and motivate them!!!!!!!!!!!

    I think it was just a couple of years ago the Landmark Legal Foundation won some pretty nasty court battles against the Wisconsin's teacher's union.
     
  3. Dahaub

    Dahaub Active Member

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    Just who's boots are you two right-wingnuts licking now? Dan
     
  4. southjblue

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    Shelly---There goes duuuHaub----Here goes another one---George
     
  5. grnberetcj

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    Unions are an outmoded plague on society as a whole.

    As corrupt as the unions have been (and still are) I'd be ashamed to have my name associated with that trash.

    Curt
     
  6. W.P.T.

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    Only the ones sucking their thumbs ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  7. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

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    Hey dimwit,

    I only lick boots if they got bar oil and sawdust on them!

    Whose do you lick?

    former UB of CJ of America local #2894
     
  8. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Back again.


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    You should paste your crap on your desktop and leave it there. We don't need it.

    HM
     
  9. rodbuster

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    If they cared about the children, would they set such a bad example for them, by lying about being sick, and not showing up for work?
     
  10. halfmile

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    Poor David. Let's get to the point. The teachers are protesting to obtain an impossibility.

    The money is not there. The state is 3 Billion dollars in the hole.

    If you lived in Wisconsin would you consent to raising taxes in the state that is the highest taxed already to give a group of people something the rest of us do not have?

    I live in Wisconsin. I know the score here, unlike all the so called experts from elsewhere. If you don't have a dog in this fight you should shut up.

    HM
     
  11. hairtrigger

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    i get my union pension every month what do you scabs get???
     
  12. halfmile

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    Dud, what I don't have is a desire to pay more taxes so a bunch of teachers can get the rest of us to give them what we don't have for ourself.

    WE PAY THEIR SALARY!!

    If they deserve free health cars and 80 % of their salary as free lifetime pension wihtout paying a nickel, not to mention 3 months off a yer then I should have had it too.

    I give good teachers all the credit in the world and think they should earn a decent wage, and have the same benefits the rest of us do.

    Tell me why they deserve more.

    HM
     
  13. Bisi

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    What about what the government takes from the taxpayer,dud? The taxpayers are trying to keep and save their homes. My PROPERTY TAXES are now higher than my mortgage payment when I had one. I don't own my home anymore, I rent it from the county, and 85% of my "rent" goes to schools. I only attended public schools for 4 years and nobody else in my family has ever attended. And yet I get to pay till death for the damn rotten schools.

    Back to buzzy's question. No, they don't give a dam.

    Bill Clinton's motto was - "let's do it for the children" he would say with crocdile tears when he wanted to pass more government largess.

    Now the motto should be - "let's stick it to the children", because they are the ones who will have to pay for all the crap. Hopefully they won't thank us with the use of the rifle and bayonet.
     
  14. ysr_racer

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    These three kids are sitting around talking, and the first kid says, "My dad is so fast, he can shoot an arrow down range and run down there to see where it lands".

    The second little kid says, "That's nothing, my dad is so fast that when he goes to sleep at night and turns off the lights, he can be in bed before the room gets dark".

    The third little kid says, "I got all you guys beat. My dad is in the Teamsters. He's so fast that when he gets off of work at 4:30, he's home by 2:15".


    Brought to you by the non union workers of America. Unlike union members, I work for a living.
     
  15. southjblue

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    Racer---You'r something else---SJB---
     
  16. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    Hello again dud:

    After reading your posts I now understand why you are posting links to the Maddow show on another thread. You apparently lack analytical thinking skills and actually believe her socialist drivel.

    Well... here's are some inconvenient facts and issues for you to consider.

    Referring to Wisc teachers, you wrote, "This is an attack on the middle class". Assuming "attack" is an appropriate term, your statement remains factually inaccurate unless "middle class" is defined as top quartile income earners.

    Google the most recent IRS income data reported and you'll find $67k/year puts a person in the top 25% of all American income earners. The average compensation package of Wisc NEA teachers is well above that minimum cutoff.
    The teachers are in fact, UPPER INCOME people. As an aside, would you care to bet where the taxpayer compensation packages of the other protesting Wisc public employees put them?

    I'll let others argue whether Wisc teachers are or are not worth the compensation they receive. However, what's going on in Wisc is the face of the American labor movement today. With approximately 2.7 million members, the National Education Association (NEA) is THE SINGLE LARGEST union in the country. Of course, the NEA represents most if not all of the protesting Wisc teachers.

    No longer surprising, a majority of union labor in America consists of public sector employees. Here's the break down for 2010. 11.9% of the total U.S. workforce belonged to unions. While 6.9% of private sector employees were organized, 36.2% of public sector (government workers at all levels) were union members. Any guesses why??

    The labor heros of the past struggled to protect the life and limb of everyday workers. They fought for honor, dignity and a semblance of economic security. The general public supported those struggles because it was obvious who were the good guys and who were bad guys.

    Unfortunately, the American labor movement is a shadow of it's former proud self. A majority of the public (including me) no longer view unions as the 'good guys' they once were. Indeed a majority of the U.S. public (including me) now believe the oppressed have become the oppressors.

    The practical result is that the general public (including me) view union actions with a jaundiced eye.

    One final point. I'm inclinded to judge people by the company they keep. The Wisc teachers and their NEA are proudly supported by Obummer, Pelosi , Jesse Jackson, Jr, Good Time Charlie (Rangle), and a host of other lib dem rotters.

    As Perry Mason might say, "I rest my case your honor".

    sissy
     
  17. likes-to-shoot

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    And the fourth little kid says " dad when is that guy going to learn another joke".

    And the dad says" that there son is a One trick pony, he's done lernt all he can handle for his lifetime".

    Brought to you by a retired union member who has worked harder and smarter that any one trick pony could ever think of.
     
  18. rodbuster

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    Are these teachers getting paid their regular wages, while they are lying about being sick? They must not feel too sick if they are out protesting, while the taxpayers are supporting them financially, by showing up for work. Pretty sweet deal, I know if I don't show up for work, I don't get paid!
     
  19. 90Tshooter

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    Recoil Sissy, Are we going to have another union argument? I have a teacher in my family and know several others. I don't know any of them that make $67K a year. Maybe if you add in the wages of principles, school superintendents and other high paid positions it would add up right. I have a nephew that just graduated from college looking for a teaching job. The starting wages are, in my opinion, poverty level. I don't know were Google gets the average from, not from the people I know. The biggest argument I hear from my relation is the fact the Gov. doesn't want to negotiate with the union on benefits. He wants to eliminate seniority, increase working hours, increase health care costs and decrease retirement benefits, no questions, no arguments. All the union bashers here would say "So what, they make too much as it is". Not the same reaction if it was happening to them.

    This is also the tip of the iceberg. All state/municipal workers are headed down this road. That's why the whole country is watching. If it happens in Wisconsin it will happen in other states.

    If all this happens, which it looks like it will, I don't expect to see my taxes go down any. My taxes will still go to pay for pensions and health care for retired senators and assemblymen. Funny, they're not voting to reduce their benefits.

    Joe
     
  20. whiz-bang

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    Way to go hairtrigger I was wondering how long it was going to be before a brain washed union thug like you with no respect for your fellow man was going to call us scabs.

    I dislike unions because of people like hairtrigger. Childish name calling. How dumb can he be. You set a fine example of why non union workers don't like you.

    I dislike unions because of your democrat politics. Tell your union leaders to invest your dues to the members well being instead of corrupt political leaders.

    Ex AFL CIO member and couldn't be happier.
     
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