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Do ported choke tubesreduce recoil?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by GoldE, May 3, 2009.

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  1. GoldE

    GoldE TS Member

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    Do ported choke tubes reduce recoil? I'm having problems with recoil right now, but my stock has an adjustable comb, and there's no more room to make it shorter and change to a thicker pad. I'm thinking of getting ported tubes to reduce recoil as an option? If they do is it a noticable improvent?


    Thanks,
    Derek
     
  2. rick979

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    Derek: I doubt that this will reduce felt recoil. I would try a different tactic. Good luck ... Rick .... Texas
     
  3. hmb

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    You will reduce recoil if you make your gun heavier. Put some lead in the butt stock and you will reduce recoil. You should also check gun fit. If you also add some weight to the front of the gun you can maintain gun balance. HMB
     
  4. Andy44

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    NO! Only make more of a mess to clean up! Look cool, though.

    AndyH ;-)
     
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    Listen to HMB and Andy, they are correct. J.W.
     
  6. GoldE

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    Good to get the same response from all of you. Saved me $60 for the buying a ported one. I'm happy with my choke right now. I remember a shooter beside me with ported chokes and I think the ported chokes only made the gun shoot louder =).

    Abou the lead weight, is there a special lead weight for a shotgun? Where can I get this?

    Thanks,
    Derek
     
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    porting of any kind is just a way to separate you from our $$'s...with no other benefit
     
  8. old tex

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    Derek

    I have to be the one who plays devil's advocate on porting but here is my experience.

    Porting (properly done) WILL reduce cheek slap if that is a problem.

    My first porting was on the notorious Browning superposed many years ago (maybe 40+-) there were no adj. combs and the only in-stock device was Edwards.

    I went around with a bruised and bloody cheek until I found Magna-port. (This was before "Pro-port") in desperation I sent my gun to them, esthetics aside, it worked almost miracously no more cheek slap!

    It will hold the muzzle down although recoil to the shoulder may not be affected.

    Aside, by the time I discovered porting I had developed a dandy flinch and that required a release trigger (also a good choice).

    unc
     
  9. GoldE

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    Hello UNC,

    Ported barrels did well for you then. I think ported barrels work as they go much further down the barrel to remove excess gas. As for chokes I'm not sure since it's just 1/2 to an 1 inch of porting in the end of the barrel.

    I was thinking earlier of this less intrusive ported choke as an option since it's just a $65 screw in.

    Thanks,
    Derek
     
  10. Milkbone

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    Absolutely they do- by at least 0.1%
     
  11. bigdogtx

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    If you can find a stock fitter in your area to make sure the gun is set to you. Is it recoil you are feeling in your shoulder or in your cheekbone that is bothering you??
     
  12. Shell Shucker

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    Hi Derek


    My experience with ported choke tubes leads me to agree with Old Tex.
    On my Remington 870 Tactical Dessert Recon with 18" barrel,I noticed
    a moderate reduction in cheek slap when using a Comp-N-Choke tube over
    my Carlsons non-ported extended tube. Yup, the ported tube does crud
    up with plastic film a whole lot quicker than the non-ported tube, but
    by the end of a 200 target shoot, my patterns had not degraded at all
    for what I could tell. The ported tubes are a bit louder to boot.


    The best recoil reducer on the market is the Enidine "Shot Stock" which
    is available through Mesa Tactical. This unit is only available for AR-15
    spec. rifle and shotgun stock assemblies. Unfortunately, the only shotgun
    stock assemblies Mesa supplies at present are for Remington 870 & Mossberg
    500/590/835 pump guns. I installed the Mesa Tactical "High Tube Recoil Stock"
    my 870 along with a Leapers Picatinny scope rail, topped off with a Simmons
    red dot scope. What a huge difference in recoil reduction compared to the stock
    Remington with an R3 recoil pad! My gun now looks like an M16, but it now handles better and shoots super soft with no boot or cheek slap.
    The beasty kicks less than the Ljutic Space Gun I tried back in the early 80's,
    and in fact, shooters at my local club call my gun the "Space Gun" and plenty
    of them want to try it out upon seeing it in action. All who have tried it so far have liked it a lot as far as recoil reduction is concerned.


    Without a word of a lie, this recoil reducer makes my trap cannon feel like
    a 5 lb. .410 when shooting 1 1/8oz. 3 dram Winchester shells! I could go
    500 shots with this setup and would suffer no discomfort at all.


    Anyone who likes Remington or Mossberg pumps should get the Mesa Tactical
    pistol grip Recoil Stock assembly. For about $400 bucks, you get a truly
    amazing recoil reducer that takes out at least 70 percent of felt recoil,
    especially with trap loads. Check out their web site if ya hate flinching and pain.


    Happy Blastin'


    JJ Clarke
     
  13. mixer

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    GoldE,

    Add weight in the bolt hole in the stock. You can use shot in a short piece of pipe (plugged at both ends of course)or you can use appropriate sized fishing sinkers.

    Eric
     
  14. GoldE

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    Hello Bigdogtx,

    I had a fitting 1 1/2 year ago. Fit is good. It's just I've barely reached the adjustable comb's mechanism so it won't go shorter to have a thicker pad. No slaps on the face.

    Last weekend I used the multi purpose shotshells 3 dram and 3 1/4 dram and after 200 rounds my shoulder is so sore. Well last year after a long shoot with my regular 1 oz loads, I don't feel hurt, but I think a little less recoil will be to my advantage.

    Thanks,
    Derek
     
  15. GoldE

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    Hi Milkbone,

    So in your experience the ported tubes recoil was reduced by 0.1%. Hmmm very little then.

    Thanks,
    Derek
     
  16. GoldE

    GoldE TS Member

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    Hello Eric,

    Shots in a tube. I'll keep that as an option.

    Thanks,
    Derek
     
  17. Neil Winston

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    If you do some of the calculations suggested by the recoil section of "Hatcher's Notebook" you will conclude that the exiting (and expanding) gasses of 3-dram shells account for about four percent of their recoil. That's the upper limit of what ports can do, and that's assuming that _all_ the gasses exit via the ports.

    Night shoot-off pictures from the Grand indicate that a lot of gas is directed out the ports of a conventionally-ported gun and a lot isn't.

    That means that if you decided that ported chokes could reduce recoil by 2% it's impossible that you would be more than 100% wrong. And on TS.com, it's easy to be more wrong than that; it happens all the time.

    Neil
     
  18. jim brown

    jim brown Well-Known Member

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    No.

    jim brown
     
  19. GW22

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    No!

    Adding weight will, though. Tungsten is ideal. It's much more dense than lead, so you can put it right where you want it and not have to drill big holes.

    http://www.maximum-velocity.com/tungstencylinders.htm

    It's not cheap, but it works!

    -Gary
     
  20. The Rock

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    All that I have noticed is the wad falls a good 15 yards shorter with the ported tubes than my un-ported Daly.

    Recoil is not affected as I can tell.

    Rock

    Jim
     
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