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Dislocated Right Shoulder - How long til shooting?

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by SeldomShoots, Jun 23, 2009.

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  1. SeldomShoots

    SeldomShoots Active Member

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    Hello all, I dislocated my right shoulder this past weekend. Mucsles in my right arm and shoulder hurt like hell now. However, it has only been 3 days. Anyone had this type of injury and if so, how long was it before you could get back to trap shooting?

    Thanks for any information in advance, John E.
     
  2. guido

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    Well dah, what does the Doctor say?????
     
  3. g7777777

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    It hurts- see a doc and ask but he will tell you it hurts

    If it was a simple dislocation- what harm is going to come from shooting?

    Just a matter of how much pain you expect. The pain on movement wont go away for weeks or might never go away but that doesnt mean you cant shoot

    Gene
     
  4. SeldomShoots

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    My doctor doesn't shoot, he has no idea what recoil feels like. Guido, have you ever dislocated your shoulder? If so, how long was until you got back to shooting and felt like your shoulder could take it. I guess I am looking for opinions from shooters who have actually experienced this type of injury and their recovery time. How would a doctor know that unless he is a trap shooter and had the same injury? Gene, sounds like you have experienced this type of injury. As far as harm coming from it, I don't know but I am a little concerned with the muscles and ligaments stretched to some degree, that recoil from a gun could cause it to dislocate again. I presume that will vary from person to person. Fortuneately, it was not dislocated for long and slipped back in without going to the ER. So the muscle and ligaments were not out of position for very long.

    Still looking for opinions from any other shooters that have experienced this type of injury.

    Thanks, John E.
     
  5. Release Trigger

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    John E.

    Sorry cannot help with dislocation but had left shoulder Total replacement June 07 Doc would not allow me to shoot for 6 months.

    Have just had right shoulder replaced (20th May)and Doc tells me, because it is my shooting shoulder cannot shoot for 12 months.

    Have recently spoken to Pat McCarthy about his recoil system and have decided to go ahead and have him make me a stock to help with recoil.

    Physio is probably best option for you at the moment.

    Good Luck.

    Release Trigger..........Downunder.
     
  6. guido

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    Well Sir, My point was why come on here and ask for medical advise.

    Guido
     
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    If this is your first time, listen to the Dr. and your rehab specialist!!!!!!!! This is critical! If you are not in physical therapy, get yourself there and do everything they say! I dislocated my left shoulder just out of high school playing football. As a youth, I thought I was indestrucable. Within a couple months, it was dislocated again. Each time it comes out, pain is less and you'll go back to your routine quicker. It got to the point for me, if I sneezed and didn't prepare my shoulder for the jolt, it would come out of socket again. If I cought a softball over my head, it would come out. At this point, I could catch a long fly, grip my glove under my right arm removing it, and throw the softball back into the infield and continue playing. It was like popping your knuckles, just a little more severe. I finally had to go through shoulder reconstruction. I'm not 50 and the arthritis in my shoulder is terrible. I don't know about recoil issues because I wasn't shooting at the time, but do yourself a favor, do everything within your power to rehab it properly the first time.
     
  8. Golden Beebe

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    John...

    I could not agree more with "Hammer-Time". I also dislocated my right shoulder in high school. At the time I didn't know that you were supposed to take of this injury (it went back in, what's the big deal). Shortly there after it came out again and again. In these last 20+ years or so it's been out allot. I would go back to shooting when you don't have any pain. Couple of weeks I would guess... I assume it's sore and very tight? Somewhat like you were hit in the shoulder with a bat? In my case or Hammers case we would probably be shooting the same day...

    Trust me you do not want to end up in our shape. I was told years back that I should had isolated that arm. With today's medical improvements I'm sure there is a better way...

    Good luck to you...

    Matt Friesen
     
  9. SeldomShoots

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    Guido, thanks, but I wasn't asking for medical advice, only shooter's personal experience with such and injury and their recovery time to get back to shooting.

    Matt, Hammer and Release, thanks for sharing your experiences with me. And you're right it hurts, but not like being hit by a bat, more like I threw a bunch of fast balls before I warmed up, kind of like my arm is just hanging there throbbing. Sudden movement is jolting. I agree strengthening the muscles around the shoulder before getting too agressive with activities will be very important. Doctor recomended some limited range of motion movements for the time being to keep the arm from stiffening up and in 2-3 weeks after the pain backs off, he will give me exercises to strengthen it back up. He recommended an MRI to rule out any tears, but he and I haven't scheduled it yet. The worst thing is it still seems and feels like its loose.

    Base on your experiences, I think I will not bother pre-squadding for Indiana's state shoot which starts on July 7, and will likely be sitting this one out, short of a miracle.

    Thanks and good shooting to all of you, John E.
     
  10. claycruncher

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    I dislocated my left shoulder skiing. At the time I was about 37 years old (24 years ago). I went to physical therapy for a year and only regained about 85% of my original range of motion. I have been careful and have not had any further dislocations. I did not shoot at the time so I can't provide any info on healing and resuming shooting. I can tell you that my shoulder still pains me frequently when moved in certain ways.

    As previously stated once you dislocate the shoulder subsequent dislocations become much easier. Sorry to be redundant, but go see a good orthopedist and follow all the direction given by the DR. and the physical therapist then take care that you don't have any future occurrences.
     
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    I dislocated mine in a December skiing accident and was shooting in May. I did have to use a BT99 Plus with a Timney recoil device but at least I could shoot, plus, my body was much younger then.
     
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    I would wait untill some of the strength returns to the shoulder and arm. Which arm is it and is that the shoulder that will take the recoil? My shoulder was a chronic dislocation due to being hit by a car as teen. (Left Shoulder) I'm a right handed shooter. I've had 5 surgeris over the past 40 years on the shoulder including total replacement and a revison of the repalcement 25 months ago. I've spent untold hrs in physical therapy to regain strength and range of motion, my advice; take some time to let the shoulder heal a bit take a month off then try to shoulder the gun. If the pain is mild try shooting a round (one) then go from there. Ice your shouldr prior to moving it and force your self to do os or you'll loose range of motin and strength. Work your shoulder twice daily at a minimum. I prefer heat to cold as it seems to loosen my shoulder up a bit prior to therapy.
     
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    cruncher, 320090T and Bruce thanks for your input. I am currently seeing an ortopedic doctor. Right shoulder injury and right handed shooter. I shoot a KX-5 with mercury recoil reducer in the stock. I also have an 870 TC with a bumbbuster as back up gun. I am a little concerned that I will feel both guns more than I use to. Just have to wait and see. Fortuneately, I feel the shoulder is improving even though it has only been a few days. I will heed everyone's advice to follow doctor's orders, do meaningful physical therapy, ice it and heat it, and come back into shooting later on down the road and slowly.

    Thanks, John E.
     
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    You will know when it's ok to shoot again, your eyes won't water from the pain.
     
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    I hear that!!! John E.
     
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    John I have had several dislocations during my misquided younth

    50 percent of the damage probably happened right at the time of injury and another 40 percent if it took a long time to get it back in or just the process of getting it back in.

    Take an antiimflamatory for the pain- ask the doc for a strong one - but dont plan on all the motion coming back or dont plan on it being exactly like it was before

    That being said- shooting doesnt require a lot of range of motion and doesnt require you be a pro athlete

    Do all the rehabe exercies- maybe even learn to swim if you dont already and start doing some of that

    The more you can use the muscles- and get blood flowing without direct weight- the better off you are

    It might always hurt a little but the inflamatories should be taken

    regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
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    There are times when a Browning recoilless comes in very handy.
     
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    You need to ask your doctor if your dislocation was a Class 1, Class 2 or Class 3. (seperation distances when x-rayed dictates the class of seperation that you sustained.) Surgery is nearly always required on a Class 3 while the other two are just left to heal on their own. If you have a class 3 and opt for the surgery recovery will be relatively quick. If you opt for no surgery on a class 3 it is my opinion that your shoulder will never recover FULLY. Class 1's and Class 2's take a long time to heal as they miss out on the benefits of surgery. I had a class 3 playing racquetball in my youth. I am 61 now and wish I had opted for the surgery and my right shoulder was very painful for a couple of years and has never recovered full range. Best of luck to you my friend. Rick .... Texas
     
  19. Bruce Specht

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    AS a side to the other post, Luvs to Shoot, I saw 7 differnt Orthopedic Dr's prior to letting anyoen cut on my alway geta second or third opinion
     
  20. SeldomShoots

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    Bruce and rick good advice along with the others. I would say it was a Class 1. It came about from a dead pull on too short of a wrench for adequate leverage in an awkward position with my right shoulder lined up directly with my arm where it could pull straight out if my muscles and ligaments stretched or pulled such as they did. It happened this past Saturday, and I didn't go to the emergency room and have it put back in. It hurt bad enough that I wanted it fixed ASAP, and the ER at the local hospital is nothing more than a band-aid shop. I was able to get it back in myself using my left arm to raise right arm over my head and then putting some traction or pull on it behind my head (as if I had both arms up and my hands behind my head) and gently moving it back and forth a little in a side to side manner and forward and backward. Took what seemed like about a minute of traction and subtle movements and then it moved and the pain went away instantly. I figure that it must have went back where it belonged at that moment.

    Saw orthopedic doctor on Monday for X-ray after the fact. Doctor said it was in place and x-ray was unremarkable for any breaks or fractures and the shoulder joint appeared to be in place. Scheduled MRI today to rule out any tears. Muscles and ligaments still hurt some, and index finger is a little numb still, but I have better range of movement today, and flex my bicep and make it raise up which I couldn't do yesterday. Accordingly, I don't think it could have been anything more than a Class 1, which makes me happy and very optimistic about the recovery.

    Thanks for sharing your experiences and advice. John E.
     
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