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Did Obama Supply The Guns For Fast and Furious?

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Bucko43, Jul 5, 2012.

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  1. Bucko43

    Bucko43 Well-Known Member

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    Here's an afterburner to really think about...

    http://www.therightscoop.com/must-watch-afterburner-with-bill-whittle-on-fast-and-furious/
     
  2. Catpower

    Catpower Molon Labe TS Supporters

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    Hell yes he did, and that's why he used executive privilege, and the sorry assed media won't even report it, it might help their messiah not get elected

    Get everybody you know out to vote
     
  3. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

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    In all the years that I was a Corp Mgr there was one thing that you could count on. If something went down on your watch, it was your fault. You dont have to order it or know about it and I am sure he did both
     
  4. BAD 303

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    One thing is for certain. Hussein did not supply anything. As a true liberal pos he ordered others to pull it off and used taxpayer dollars. Libs don't do any work themselves they also don't pay for anything with their own money. But they love taking credit for successes when they had no hand in the success. Just the opposite when there is a failure. They act like they had nothing to do with it and will fight forever claiming so. A lieing pos we have posing as a leader and living off our backs. But he has done it all his life in this country.
     
  5. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Obama oversaw this fiasco and enabled it. The responsibility is his.
     
  6. warren

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    Fast and furiours is clearly a gov't sponsered attemp to restrict our 2nd amendment rights and it goes clear to the top leadership, and I use the word losely, of the executive branch of our gov't period

    warren
     
  7. Ponytail in WI

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    True Warren and unfortunately it may be going back at least two to three Administrations! I dont trust any of them..
     
  8. slide action

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    Obama and his pals tried to blame it on Bush!!! The difference is program that the ATF under Bush launched, actually recorded the serial numbers.The guns were sold legally and they were NOT funneled into Mexico! What they did was ask the Mexican Government to report if ANY "actually did wind up in Mexico",however, it was scraped when the Mexican Government REFUSED to cooperate! --In the case of "Fast and Furious", The guns were INTENTIONALLY sold ilegaly, and INTENTIONALY sent across the border with NO system in place to track them! The intent was to INTENTIONALLY see that they would up in Mexico so the liberal dirt bags could "prove" they came from the U.S. thus giving them the ammonition they needed to seek more restrictive gun control laws!--This crap that it started under Bush is absolute fabricated Bull Crap!!!
     
  9. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Slide actions post was partially correct, but the Bush era guns were chipped with tracking devices that were battery powered. Due to battery failures and the bandidos discovering some of the implants, the program was halted.
     
  10. Johnny

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    toolmaker, I can find no reputable source for the claim that any of the guns in Operation Wide Receiver contained tracking devices. I am calling BS on that. I can find no source for that info other than dubious news reports with no source listed. Some sources claim only a few contained tracking devices, some say none, some say all. Any tracking device would have a very limited range anyway. The idea is ridiculous. Most of those guns were lost and who knows how many deaths resulted. There is so much disinformation involving these operations that it's not possible to know the truth.
     
  11. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Little johnny, learn how to search for imformation and stop watching CNN. Your the only bullshitter on this site. P.S. little johnny, I new about gun chipping long before F&F hit the streets.

    http://www.newsmax.com/US/ATF-furious-Keene-crimes/2012/07/09/id/444757
     
  12. Catpower

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    Little Johnny just can't stand it that his zero I mean hero F'ed up, and has to blame it on Bush
     
  13. pyrdek

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    Are ATF, Justice accomplices?

    With the activity with the investigation and lack of response by Attorney General Eric Holder and the last-minute assertion of executive privilege to avoid answering questions regarding the "Fast and Furious" gun running, there is still one question that I have never heard asked.

    Because a firearm without any ammunition is nothing but a high-priced club, did the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives or the Department of Justice also provide ammunition for these guns or did they do nothing to prevent the illegal transfer of ammunition to the Mexican drug lords?

    If the DOJ or BATFE allowed the transfer of ammo, with no attempt to intercept this transfer, and perhaps even aiding in the transfer, are they not accomplices before the fact in the killing of U.S. border agent Brian Terry?
     
  14. Johnny

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    Well toolmaker, The link you posted is just one of the dubious news reports I mentioned. No sources cited for the claims of "chipping." Claims the Mexicans planted the tracking devices. Also another dubious claim "A vast majority of the guns involved were traced and retrieved" other articles say very few retrieved.

    If it's in newsmax ,it must be true.

    From the Blaze," Some of the guns from Wide Receiver were implanted with RFID chips" note the word "some"
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/the-5-biggest-differences-between-operation-fast-and-furious-and-operation-wide-receiver/

    Other reports say none were "chipped" , can't believe any of these reports. The idea that planes followed these guns around constantly is ridiculous. little Johnny
     
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    Hell yes, He's a crooked Chicago thug.

    Only the ignorant fall for his BS. but regrettably they are a large tribe.
     
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    Tribe is right. Mike.
     
  17. Bucko43

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    Too bad some of the REP's in congress can't find a way to start an undercover investigation to expose this POS...

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    Mitt Romney with his pleasant smile will deliver you to bondage. Lee
     
  19. over/under

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    Hell yes! Why else would he invoke executive privilege? If it smells fishy, it usually is fishy.
     
  20. halfmile

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    Pyrdek, you sond like a dunce. AK ammo is everywhere, a spam can full is about a hundred bucks last time I looked. That's enought to kill Brian Terry 600 times.

    Also ATF did not supply the guns. Many came from the Lone Wolf gun shop in NW Phoenix (maybe Glendale). When the shop owner tried to complain to ATF they forced him to keep the thing going.

    Wake up and smell the coffee.

    HM
     
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