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diabetes issues

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by 9point3, Feb 8, 2010.

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  1. 9point3

    9point3 Well-Known Member

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    Any of you guys with sugar issues have any problems shooting when sugar drops or spikes

    What do you do to combatit over the the course of the day
     
  2. Spanky

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    I have it. It really doesn't effect me very much at least I can't tell if it is. I've been doing the same things as I've always done. Yes I can realize I'm getting older and can't approach things as if I were 20 again. But, no it doesn't effect me shooting, hunting, fishing or my type of work. About the only thing I notice is, I guess if my sugar is on the high side I'm up like clock work taking a piss at 2:00 am.
     
  3. Post  2

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    My vision becomes fuzzy if I go to long with out eating so I try to eat some breakfast before the morning event and some lunch to start the afternoon. I also get tired so though I've gone to decafe the rest of the week, in the afternoon I've found a little regular coffee helps pick me up and keep me going for that third event. Hope this helps. Post-2
     
  4. Dusted1

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    Yep Yoda100 has the right answer.
     
  5. Matt Colman

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    YODA100 is right on, when your diet and meds are under control it should be simple to maintain.
     
  6. white rattler

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    Found out last June that I had diabetes. I am on two pills a day and have lost 60lbs. That is the good news the bad news is I can not hit anything. I went from my highest averages to the worst scores in 20 years. Trevor Dawe
     
  7. Hivoltfl

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    I agree with Yoda, I don't always follow it but he is dead on, I have had an issue or two going low, had to ask for a minute while I drank some cola but the deed was done, didnt shoot well after.

    shoot well and be well.


    Rick
     
  8. RFGA2

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    I have been diabetic since 2002. The first few years i was able to control sugar levels with diet and
    a couple of pills. Some Blood pressure meds seemed to interfere with sugar levels and in March 2009, I had some surgery. While in the hospital, I was started on insulin. I have gained about 25 lbs even though I am on about a 1400 calorie diet. My docs and I have been practicing with the meds and the sugar levels are more consistent. I have gone to a weight specialist and we added more protein to my diet and cut some of the carbs. The sugar swings have lessened.

    My vision has been really effected. i used to see the rings on the targets and now on a bad day just see streaks. The heat at the Grand in Sparta the first couple of years really did me in, including a trip in the ambulance as my BP spiked. I am off one of the pills that controlled the sugar but added the weight. Working out at least 4 days a week , my weight is slowly dropping again.

    it is not an easy disease and good luc with your shooting.

    Bob Gibson
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  9. TNCoach

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    9point3 - light snacks and always keep a few crackers on hand. If you're following your diet, you'll know when you hit the wall.

    white rattler - first let me congratulate you on loosing 60lbs and that your vision problem will pass. I was first diagnosed and went on a diet and lost 75lbs and the ability to see pretty much everything on my monitor - it scared me to death.

    It happens because the pressure in the eyes are higher when your sugars are not under control. I would ask your doctor if the problem persists. I had retinopathy in one eye, but it healed itself after a couple of years.

    Good Luck,
    TNCoach
     
  10. perga1

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    Been type II for 10 years and I still can't get a handle on it. I am not on insulin and keep fighting but my last A1C was 6.9 and I know when I get to 7% the doc will require that I go on insulin. There are certain foods that really cause my sugar to rise. For me potato, and rice are pretty much a no no so I have them very rarely. When my sugar is high 170 or above my vision is very blurred and as it comes down it improves. I have found that my vision will change during a 100 bird event and it is pretty rare that I get to shoot a whole event with consistent vision. Visiting with a nutritionist helped my awake hours but my Liver produces large amounts of sugar when I sleep so my fasting sugars in the morning are usually between 160 and 200 and that is going to bed at 80-110. I can't find any way to regulate the nightime sugar increase so I always start the day with blurred vision and can't have the good stuff for breakfast anymore. This disease is a real PIA. Good luck and I hope you can get a handle on your glucose levels. Jim
     
  11. Hivoltfl

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    perga have you tried taking your diabetic medicene at night? one of the guys that works for me had to start that, worked for him.


    Rick
     
  12. Hoosier Daddy

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    White Rattler, your gun probably doesn't fit you the same would be my guess for your slump.
     
  13. train222

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    I have had Type II Diabetes for the past 18 years.

    Even though it's some what controlled by medication, the disease still attacks your entire body.

    You name it, I have had.

    I have lost 70 percent of my teeth, because of the diease. Nerve Thropy in legs, back and arms.

    I have been over wieght, most of my adult life, and this is major contributing factor to this disease. My wieght goes up and down like a yo-yo...

    Last Thursday, I woke up and had difficulty looking out of my left eye. I made an emergency vist to the eye doctor, I was told thet I had A Stroke that attacked the optic nerve. The Stroke was cause by the Diabetes..

    They sent me to the Wills Eye Insitute of Philadelphia for further evalation..

    I just got the results A couple of hours ago. I have lost 65% vision in my left eye, which is none reversible. And it could get a lot worse...The Right eye is OK for right now..

    I have another appiontment at the Insitute, tomorrow to meet with a specialist who is working with a New Experimental Drug that they inject into the eye. They want to see if I am a viable canidate for this procedure. I HOPE SO....

    Please, Please do not take this Disease Lighty....IT WILL DESTROY YOUR LIFE!

    Do what ever you can do to get it under control as soon as you can...

    Keep your Fingers and Toes Crossed for me for my appiontment tomorrow...

    Thanks,

    Stu Gabriel (MrGun)
    train222@aol.com
     
  14. perga1

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    Stu, I will say a prayer for you.
    Hivoltfl, yup, I tried that and my sugar crashed within 1 hour of going to sleep. I woke up with the jitters and had to get up and drink some apple juice and eat a couple of PB crackers, which had been recommended by the nutritionist in the event I had a crash. Weird huh? Jim
     
  15. widomaker

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    I have it also and it sucks. I try to keep it under control with the metformin 2000mg per day but its really difficult. Usually I do not eat before I shoot as I would rather have my sugar low then going up. I eat a sensable lunch and shoot the afternoon program and so far I have been lucky. My eyes are good and no damage yet. Good luck Stu and I hope it all works out for you.
     
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    Damn stuff sucks big time. It adds an additional level of difficulty most don't have to deal with. Last fall at the Missouri Fall Handicap I was shooting the singles championship and "had the feeling" as I was going to the last post on trap 3. I had a couple glucose tabs between the third and fourth traps, but the weather was bad and we were rushing and they didn't have enough time to kick in. I dropped 6 of the next 10 for a 19 on trap 4.

    Squadding early seems to help me. It makes a world of difference of what I have eaten the night before on how well I see targets. Less carbs = better scores.
     
  17. Hivoltfl

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    I think the ATA shouid start a special catagory for us........


    Rick
     
  18. Gross Man

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    Guys - This is a great string, but I find it very upsetting. I have had Type 2 Diabetes for over 10 years now and am under control. What upsets me are two things:

    1. This is s degenerative disease and it will only get worse.

    2. Lots of you guys are having bad things happen to you.

    Yoda has good advise, but I would like to add a few things:

    1. Some things you can't control, but some you can, like diet and exercise. My fasting blood sugar was holding for a long time around 110 with meds, then it started creeping up to 140. The net is that I started going to the gym 6 days a week and watching my diet better - I got it back down to 110. Do strength exercise as well as aerobics. Sometimes that is not enough, so the meds are necessary also. Convince yourself that this is what you have to do to be healthy.

    2. Get an endocrinologist in addition to your GP. There are many different kinds of meds that work differently. This is a very complex disease and a good endo guy can figure out what work best for you. Work with the Doc and don't stop until you get it under control.

    3. If you are on insulin and are not under control, talk to your Doc about a pump with the blood glucose sensor. I don't have any actual experience with this, but as an engineer, it sounds like a great thing. In control theory, we would call this a closed loop feedback system. It senses your actual blood sugar and regulated the proper amount of insulin. Almost an artificial pancreas.

    Shooting is a great avocation for all of us and you have be tough mentally to do it well. So focus that energy on doing what you can to control the diabetes.

    Billy
     
  19. Shooting Coach

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    I have had this for about twelve years, and the worst thing is loss of eyesight. I am now 20/400 without corrective lenses. My days of championship level, consistent shooting are over. When sugar crashes, Auto Pilot cannot set up the shot. Scores plummet. Life is a witch, then you marry one. LOL

    I have gotten off all meds by going to the Mediterranean Food Pyramid, and a fairly intense fitness program. I am starving right now, but will not eat until morning. I plan what I will eat when I am not hungry, and do not go to the store when hungry, which is most of the time.
     
  20. Big Jack

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    I have a grandson (age 4) that has been diagnosed with juvenile diabetes. I dread what he will have to endure thru his life. I see his blood sugar level rise above numbers I believed possible and drop far lower then I thought they ever could. His Drs. don't seem to be alarmed and feel everything is smoothing over and he should be just fine. I say a prayer for him each time I think of him, which is often and will include all of you as well.

    Big Jack
     
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