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Demonstration 3-hole Events

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Hauser, Mar 6, 2008.

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  1. Hauser

    Hauser Member

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    How about including a 3-hole (44° included angle) 16yd and handicap event during the preliminary week at the next Grand?


    Jerry Hauser
     
  2. J.Woolsey

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    I would like to see that myself. Matter of fact, I would like to see it become the rule. J.Woolsey
     
  3. oleolliedawg

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    About as much chance as extending the max.yardage or reducing the shot payload!!
     
  4. Mo Bill

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    Sounds like it would be fun...just to see how we could do!

    For those concerned about their average perhaps make it non registered.

    This might generate more interest than you think.


    Mo Bill
     
  5. Lyle

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    non registered so I don't ruin my 75 average and I am in.

    Lyle
     
  6. Bisi

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    Add 50 yard min. distant to the equation, in addition to the 3 hold target setting.
     
  7. zzt

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    Both of the clubs I routinely shoot at throw 3-hole, or 2 3/4-hole, 50 yard targets targets. When I shoot at a club that throws 2-hole, I don't seem to have any trouble adjusting. They all seem like straight-aways. I often think that's why I often shoot better at some big shoots than I do at my home club.

    I will say that after three days of shooting 2-hole targets, the first couple hard rights or lefts surprise me, and I have to chase them.
     
  8. shot410ga

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    3 hole, 50 yard target, 24 gram or 7/8's max load. OK 1 oz is acceptable. Let's put the word diffculty back into the competition.
     
  9. ronbo142

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    What is the point?

    Why make a already HARD game HARDER the best of the best will continue to win and the rest of us will just get more frustated.

    Ronbo
     
  10. Hap MecTweaks

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    Those settings prevented an almost total domination at the max for years if the cheating years are excluded. Especially when mother nature was a tad sassy, according to the record book.

    That is a fun game but not for the super high average seekers in caps. Hap
     
  11. J.Woolsey

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    Hap, you are 100% right, and I for one, would like to go back to it. J.Woolsey
     
  12. hairy

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    Looking at the US Open program, it looks like they have a 50 bird derby in the evenings. 25 16's and 25 h'caps.....would be a good place to test if anyone really is interested in it.
     
  13. Bob Schultz

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    For those of you who forgot...the three hole target year instituted by Neal Causbay was one of the best years for money shooters in the past decade. The purses were spread out more and if you managed to break a good one you got paid well for it.

    One of the primary arguments against the three-hole target is the contention by many that the sport will suffer a loss of shooters. The logic is flawed in my opinion, however my opinion hsa little or nothing to do with ATA policy.

    I think most shooters will rise to the challenge and our sport will once again be respected. Skeet changed the rules to favor the "high average" shooters and has been on a steady decline since. ( Notice the similarity?)

    1 Ounce loads and 3 holers would make my day. The lighter loads would benefit juniors and ladies as well. One can hope....

    Bob Schultz
     
  14. zzt

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    I agree with Bob. I already shoot 1 ounce loads at three hole targets, so no impact for me. I also don't believe we would suffer a loss of shooters. I find 50 yard 3-hole more fun and interesting than 2-hole boring targets. I'd rather be challenged and shoot poorly than shoot well in a cakewalk. I doubt I'm the only one.

    I think there may be a small issue with prize/meat shoots. We have several old coots, not shooters mind you, who come out for the big prize shoots and insist on soft, easy targets, no distractions, and heck, even no wind. They WANT that slab of meat or trophy. None of them shoot ATA.
     
  15. oleolliedawg

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    If we believe the wanker then we also would believe the casinos are closing left and right and no new ones will ever be built!!
     
  16. ec90t

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    Guys,

    If you want to shoot some 3 hole targets come to a couple of clubs that I game shoot at regularly. If they threw 2 hole targets, the pot would always be shot up before we lost enough shooters to split.

    I wached an All-American raise his head and barely move his gun after he saw the right hand target from post 5. I looked at him and grinned, I then asked if he shot any birds like that in the ATA.

    I for one might come back and shoot registered trap targets if this was the case. It might take some of the monotony out of the shoot. Not that I'm a great shooter, but it just might make it fun.

    ec90t
     
  17. zzt

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    Well wank, my ATA averages stink. The only times I win anything is when I have a stellar day, and everyone else shoots with a broken arm. I don't play the options (unless I'm shamed into it at the club), and I don't care about the money. Yet I still prefer 3-hole 50 yard targets, because I enjoy them more, and it keeps me on my toes.
     
  18. gunner

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    I agree that the same group of people would usually still win at the big shoots, but as Bob says, if I have a good day, it would be nice to reduce the number of people in the shootoff! IMHO, the problem is that society, now, wants the "easy" way. Now we have 2 hole targets, special fingers to make doubles closer together (Sorry Bob). If you make a singles shootoff, be prepared to shoot 200-300 more! It's nice to tell your buddies that you ran 100, and not tell them that so did 10 other people, or that I shot even par at the golf course yesterday, and omit to mention that it was from the ladies tees! I thought that our golf course supt. was going to get fired the other day because he had let the rough grow up and stuck the pins in tough places. Oh, and he also moved the tees back!
    I like to be proud of a good score, whether shooting, golf or whatever, but now what used to be good scores are average scores....but we want to proud of those now, because they're EASY.
    Oh, and I don't shoot for money. The rant is now over - thanks for listening.
     
  19. Bob Schultz

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    No offense taken. The Pat finger we made was not really to bring the targets closer together, rather to level the pair and not get that wicked right angle blooper that Pats throw every once in a while. If you wish to make them wider cut about 3 inches off the Pat finger and you will have your wish! Persnoally I'd like the trap set so the hard angles just miss the ede of the trap house! Like 5 hole targets! Then we could find out who could really shoot! The American mentality would rebel at the scores of 70's and 80's though. Oh well, one can wish.

    Bob Schultz
     
  20. otnot

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    Three hole targets will never happen in this day where everyone has to feel good about themselves. It must be daunting to the beginning shooter that attends a large shoot and when he looks at the leader board all that is listed for singles are 100 straights. This is my 3rd season and I have already managed a couple 100 straights. Singles needs to be made more challenging if nothing else to do away with all the shoot-off's. I would venture a guess that you would only miss 1% more targets with 3 hole targets.
     
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