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Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Barry C. Roach, Jul 7, 2009.

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  1. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    ….interesting.
















    If there is anyone out there that doesn't know this, this is the best visual presentation
    I ever saw... Now don't be mad at old people, just remember who did this.......



    Franklin Delano. Roosevelt
    32nd. President, Democrat
    Terms of Office March 4, 1933, to April 12, 1945
    GO TO HERE !
    Our Social Security
    Franklin Delano. Roosevelt (Terms of Office March 4, 1933, to April 12, 1945), a Democrat, introduced the Social Security (FICA) Program. He Promised:

    1.) That participation in the Program would be Completely voluntary,
    2.) That the participants would only have to pay 1% of the first $1,400 of their annual Incomes into the Program,
    3.) That the money the participants elected to put Into the Program would be deductible from Their income for tax purposes each year,
    4.) That the money the participants put into the Independent 'Trust Fund' rather than into the General operating fund, and therefore, would Only be used to fund the Social Security Retirement Program, and no other Government program, and
    5.) That the annuity payments to the retirees would never be taxed as income.
    Since many of us have paid into FICA for years and are now receiving a Social Security check every month -- and then finding that we are getting taxed on 85% of the money we paid to the Federal government to 'Put Away' -- you may be interested in the following:

    ----------THEN---------------------------------------------------


    Dwight David Eisenhower
    34th. President, Republican,
    Term Of Office: January 20, 1953 to January 20, 1961
    Insert by Vincent Peter Render,

    If I recall correctly, 1958 is the first year that Congress, not President Eisenhower, voted to remove funds from Social Security and put it into the General Fund for Congress to spend.
    If I recall correctly, it was a democratically controlled Congress.
    >From what I understand, Congress logic at that time was that there was so much money in Social Security Fund that it would never run out / be used up for the purpose it was intended / set aside for.

    -------------WORSE STILL------------------------------------------------


    Lyndon Baines Johnson 36th. President, Democrat
    Term Of Office: November 22, 1963 to January 20, 1969

    Question: Which Political Party took Social Security from the Independent 'Trust Fund' and put it into the General Fund so that Congress could spend it?

    Answer: It was Lyndon B. Johnson (Democrat, Term of Office: November 22,1963 to January 20, 1969) and the democratically Controlled House and Senate.

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    Question: Which Political Party eliminated the income tax Deduction for Social Security
    (FICA) withholding?
    Answer: The Democratic Party.
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    William Jefferson Clinton
    (Bill Clinton)
    42nd. President
    Democrat Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001

    Albert Arnold Gore, Jr.
    (Al Gore)
    45th. Vice President

    Democrat Term of Office: January 20, 1993 to January 20, 2001
    Question: Which Political Party started taxing Social Security annuities?
    Answer: The Democratic Party, with Albert Arnold Gore, Jr. (Al Gore) [Vice President Term of Office: January 10, 1993 to January 20, 2001] casting the 'tie-breaking' deciding vote as President of the Senate, while he was Vice President of the US ..

    ------------------THE STRAW THAT BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK !!-------------------------------------------------


    James Earl Carter, Jr
    (Jimmy Carter)
    39th President, Democrat
    Term of Office: January 20, 1977 to January 20, 1981

    Question: Which Political Party decided to start giving Annuity payments to immigrants?

    AND MY FAVORITE:

    ANSWER: That's right! JAMES EARL CARTER, JR. (jIMMY CARTER) (DEMOCRAT, TERM OF OFFICE: JANUARY 20, 1977 TO JANUARY 20, 1981 AND THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
    IMMIGRANTS MOVED INTO THIS COUNTRY, AND AT AGE 65, BEGAN TO RECEIVE SOCIAL SECURITY PAYMENTS: THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY GAVE THESE PAYMENTS TO THEM, EVEN THOUGH THEY NEVER PAI D A DIME INTO IT!

    "Damn", have you ever seen a Jack-ass eating briers...!

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  2. crusha

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    You don't cut yourself a piece of pie if you ain't going to eat it.


    And the Democrats don't set up a new gov't fund, tax, or program, unless they have some shenanigans in mind for it somewhere down the road.

    They're cutting themselves a piece of pie. Now what do you suppose they're going to do with it?


    I'll remember that when the Health Care Benefits and Energy Taxes become law.
     
  3. Bird30

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    Barry just wait till Acorn gets done with this country, that will look like a drop in the bucket. I have been around long enough to see all this happen.

    The young people have no idea how rotten the politicians have treated the S,S.recipients. The young people should never have stood by and let them raise the age on their retirements. They cheated them out of millions of dollars that
    they have paid but they give it away to Illegals.

    Sorry about the rant but they should have had the "BALLS" to say you are not going to do that to me.

    Dave
     
  4. brigade

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    Where are all the obama/democrat supporters ? Will they admit to their Socialist genetics ? Not to mention the rest of their genetic traits.........
     
  5. Brian in Oregon

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    I was born in 1959, yet if I want full SS benefits I have to work until I'm 67.5, not 65.<br>
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    Thank-you Democrats. I'll remember this every time I vote.
     
  6. Dahaub

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    Brian don't you remember when the age restrictions were changed on social security? I was under the impression that all that was done when hero Ronnie Reagan was pres. I guess I'm wrong. Wasn't he the one who started to tax social security benefits? Wasn't he the one who taxed unemployment benefits? Seems like my memory must be going really bad. Better goggle it up and find out for sure. Dan
     
  7. highflyer

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    Don't worry, the government has set aside the money they stole from us just for social security. I am sure they invested it wisely for us. There will be more than enough to go around. Maybe they will lower the age. Our government is so efficient. They should be rewarded with control over another big chunk of our lives, maybe our health care. With the wisest of men Obama Hussein in charge. Pelosi is too busy.
     
  8. Dahaub

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    EE you have become predictable. Ha ha:) No we can't get rid of social security just for the exact reasons you have listed to get rid of it. You don't like a social system as long as you aren't getting the benefit. Well you are getting it now and don't realize it. If we didn't have ss how much do you suppose the state taxes would be increased and county taxes increased to take care of all those who couldn't take care of themselves? It would be tremendous. We have the bst system going right now and you can't see it. It's where you are keeping your head. You can't see what is going on in this world. Be nice and go by the one rule. Dan
     
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    The system would be a lot better if the pukes would have kept their hands off the money.

    Our Wonderful Wisconsin Governor is an expert at that too, stole the tobacco settlement money that was supposed to alleviate health costs and spent it on BS.

    Bottome line: What ever you get from Democrats was stolen from someone else.

    HM
     
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    VOTE IN THE 2010 ELECTIONS??? CHANGE!!!!
     
  11. Barry C. Roach

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    Dahaub. I don't need SS. It was just another Democrat tax designed to ensure dependence. I would rather have been given the option to see how I spent my own money. FDR knew that but he was building a huge power base for the Dems. It worked. I don't want anymore of your change, thank you.

    I'll be glad to give up the SS $ for it's demise and give the power back to the people.
     
  12. Dahaub

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    And EE you are alright with millions starving? I'll bet you don't have enough guns and ammo to survive something like that. We don't have a large enough army and the states don't have enough national guardsmen to go around if we let our country back to those old times. I'll bet your dad wanted to get rid of tractors and go back to horses cause he liked the smell of horse sweat too. Not going to happen so find another dead horse to beat on. Dan
     
  13. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    Dahaub. Where are all these millions who are starving in the US?
     
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    EE want's to get rid of all social programs. Wow what a concept. Just think how long it would take to get the country solvent again. Not long. What I meant about the millions starving was if we got rid of the social security and all other social programs there would literally be millions starving and those who had anything would have to fend off those who were starving. That's what I meant about the guns ammunitions and armys to go around. If you were starving how long would you go before you would try to get something to feed the ones you loved? If only those who had a job and a home and transportation had enough to eat how long before those who didn't have anything would come to get some of what you had? That's the wonder of social programs. We have social security, medicare, after school programs, before school programs, farm programs, welfare programs, small business loan programs, GI loan programs, you can go on and on and on about the opportunities within our country and you want to stop it all? No way we have the best deal going and it just might get better if a dr's visit stops costing a hundred and a quarter. How about a physical for less that 1200 dollars and an MRI that is less that 1500 we have to get it back down to reasonable. Hey one thing I read was that if you don't want the government health care you don't have to sign up so why don't you sign up for that denial now so they won't waste the time with paperwork getting you in the system? Dan
     
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    dahaub, please learn the meaning of the word "paragraph" and use them. Yes, the government is the way to efficiency, isn't it. Just look how efficient the Post Office operates. How about that model of efficiency, Amtrak? Give just one example of how the government has made anything more efficient.

    Just wait until Oboama proves just how well the government can run Chrysler and GM. That should soon be obvious enough for even the most brainless liberal to grasp.

    Golly, when the government takes over health care in this country we can be sure that it will be far cheaper. Everybody who believes that believes in the tooth fairy.
     
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    Social Security is a government run Ponzi scheme. And the government has forced everybody (except themselves) into it. Now if you really want to get ticked off, find out how much it pays them on retirement (vs SS). We, the taxpayers, are financing both systems.
     
  17. Barry C. Roach

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    I ask you again, Dan, what US citizens, by the million, are starving? And have you ever heard of "food stamps?" We don't let people starve in the US. Everyone eats in the US - even the illegal aliens. Please answer this time, I cannot stand hearing this BS without accountability any longer.
     
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    Dan has a way of using only Selected examples that may seem to prove his point.

    He does have a point. Most coneheads do. Take off your hat, Fella.

    HM
     
  19. Dahaub

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    Barry C what part of my answer don't you understand? The millions starving would be those who run out of money and food when EE gets his wish and ends all social programs. Your mention of foodstamps is perfect. It's also one of the social programs that EE wants to end. Now do everyone a favor and stand up and pull your head out of your butt and look around. To Milkbone who wants me to learn what a paragraph is, thank you for your concern but I care not what a paragraph is. If you don't like my ranting don't read it. The "Kings English" will get along just fine without my curtseying along with the other literalists and I know it isn't proper but I preferr not to include all capitols and punctuation at times to make the point I am alluding too.afteralleewasoneofmyfavoritewriterscanyouseethat;)dan
     
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    Americans won't starve if the government butts out. I don't give the government that much credit. If we ever starve in America it will be because the government wants us to.
     
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