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Democrat = liberal = gun grabber: Huh?

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by smokerz, Jan 17, 2008.

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  1. smokerz

    smokerz TS Member

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    So how come Vermont, a strongly Democrat and liberal state, is the only state to permit open and concealed carry with no regulation and no permit required? Yep, in VT, strap it on your hip, or tuck it under your shirt - no problem.

    What's this - ?

    lib·er·al /?l?b?r?l, ?l?br?l/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
    –adjective
    1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.
    2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.
    3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.
    4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.
    5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

    Sounds good to me.
     
  2. maclellan1911

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    I think VT is where it is because they believe in the true meaning. There is I believe a NEW WORLD ORDER OF LIBERALISM. As long as you agree with what the tell you its ok. New liberal to me. People shouldnt have to work, be smart or try because the government can/knows/will take better care of you then you can. some of the crazy crap.....Massachusetts liberalism You have the right to protect your family/home as long as you make every effort to get out and away from your home when a looser decides to break in and do what ever...Now if they get hurt while breaking into your home either by their own action or yours. They can sue you and your homeowners insurance. How about the recent crap regarding Sex in a public bathroom. The ACLU is defending this as invasion of privacy. ITS A PUBLIC BATH ROOM! you piss and shit and get out. No one should be having sex in a public bathroom or anywhere public. How about this for liberal Massachusetts. Police get suspended with pay while awaiting trial for criminal charges against them WTF. I for one am sick of all the groups Liberal,conservative,demo,Republican, It all makes me sick. I want a new group CONSTITUTIONALIST AMERICANS. The big problem is with the DC country club and its stale stinky do nothing house/senate. Right now I think they all suck. They all have the same Health plan. We can not buy into but pay for. They all have the same investment portfolio, we can not buy into but pay for.
    Liberal,,,,like to apply a liberal amount as face slapping to our elected pumyums. Whats worse there's not a good one in the bunch for president either........puking now. Feeling better
     
  3. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Keep fooling yourself.

    lib·er·al /?l?b?r?l, ?l?br?l/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[lib-er-uhl, lib-ruhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective

    1. favorable to progress or reform, as in political or religious affairs.

    <i>Conservatives, Christians and gunowners notwithstanding.</i>

    2. (often initial capital letter) noting or pertaining to a political party advocating measures of progressive political reform.

    <i>Meaning political correctness ie "political cleansing".</i>

    3. of, pertaining to, based on, or advocating liberalism.

    <i>ie socialism, communism and replacing national sovereignty with one world government.</i>

    4. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, esp. as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties.

    <i>But only if your individual freedom has been deemed to be politically correct.</i>

    5. favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief or expression: a liberal policy toward dissident artists and writers.

    <i>Excepting the individual beliefs of conservatives, Christians and gun owners.</i>
     
  4. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    BTW thanks for demonstrating that the most delusional people are liberals.
     
  5. halfmile

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    At one time being a liberal was a good thing, and meant that you were for advancements in human liberty and rights.

    Unfortunately about a quarter century ago the whole liberal movement got hijacked by the extreme left who will stop at nothing to create a society like they imagined communism would be.

    Now it's a dirty word. usually combined with "puke"

    And the Democrats embrace them.

    HM
     
  6. maclellan1911

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    Yes what Brian said!
     
  7. Paladin

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    I like the definition of neo-con,,which very well sums up what a liberal is.


    "neo-cons"

    "As a term, neoconservative first was used derisively by democratic socialist Michael Harrington clearly identify a group, many of whom called themselves liberal, as newly conservative ex-liberals. The term stuck, because it is accurate and because neoconservatives accepted that they are conservative."

    "The idea that Liberalism no longer knew what it was talking about is Neoconservatism".
     
  8. jackmitch

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    tell em brian, right on as usual.jackmitch
     
  9. Gary Waalkes

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    smokerz - I hate to burst your bubble about VT, but last year they tried to pass a law that OUTLAWED LEAD AMMO. The NRA was instrumental in stopping them but it will probably come back to life (even the NRA will tell you that). So I can see it now, all of the citizens of VT don't need a permit to walk around carrying their empty pistols.
     
  10. Paladin

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    Here "Huh", mash on the link. This is a perfect example of liberals at work,,and almost cost Smith & Wesson it's entire existence.


    Another perfect example of liberalism is the ACLU (where the deceitful liberals hang out), which has a policy of "the possession of weapons by individuals is not constitutionally protected".
     
  11. AJ100

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    Thank you Brian. I was so pissed I couldn't type fast enough.

    Tell them to grab THIS. Check out the youtube video.

    AJ100
     
  12. blizzard

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    Amen doda. My in-laws all live in and are originally from a small town in the Champlain Islands. The people from rural Vt., which is the vast majority of the state, are the furthest thing from Liberal.




    The whole problem with that stae is the people from NYC, boston, etc., retiring with their millions, and thinking that it's "cool" to move to the Vt. countryside. They get there, settle in, and then try to change the place into exactly what they moved from. Very, very sad.




    TAKE VERMONT BACK!
     
  13. tomk2

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    Wow. your video post proves that the "clueless liberals" who couldn't tell a semi-auto from a machine gun were actually right all along. After all, if a semi-auto can be converted to a machine gun with just an ordinary household rubber band, then there is no significant difference! They must all be outlawed????? Can you say assault weapon ban?

    Such would be the predictable tactic the banners would use, and that video would be run on every evening news program until they got what they wanted. I wonder why it hasn't been tried already.
     
  14. AJ100

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    Right about what? You can take a lot of "hunting" semi shotguns and do the same thing.

    They should outlaw the rubber bands.

    AJ100
     
  15. ljunatic

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    The ONLY reason that VT has not been denied the freedom to carry as they do, relates to a properly cited State Constitution, and State Supreme Court that could read and comprehend it as it was written.

    Constitution of the State of Vermont
    AS ESTABLISHED JULY 9, 1793, AND AMENDED THROUGH NOVEMBER 5, 2002


    CHAPTER I. A DECLARATION OF THE RIGHTS OF THE INHABITANTS OF THE STATE OF VERMONT

    Article 1. [All persons born free; their natural rights; slavery prohibited]

    That all persons are born equally free and independent, and have certain natural, inherent, and unalienable rights, amongst which are the enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety; therefore no person born in this country, or brought from over sea, ought to be holden by law, to serve any person as a servant, slave or apprentice, after arriving to the age of twenty-one years, unless bound by the person's own consent, after arriving to such age, or bound by law for the payment of debts, damages, fines, costs, or the like...

    Article 16. [Right to bear arms; standing armies; military power subordinate to civil]

    That the people have a right to bear arms for the defence of themselves and the State--and as standing armies in time of peace are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to and governed by the civil power.

    The current crop of Socialists has not been able to overturn the decision of the Vermont Supreme Court to uphold the Constitutional limits on government in this state. That is the only reason
     
  16. Paladin

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    Nice, factual, point blank post ljunatic.
     
  17. Cheap_shot

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    Halfmile wrote "At one time being a liberal was a good thing, and meant that you were for advancements in human liberty and rights.

    Unfortunately about a quarter century ago the whole liberal movement got hijacked by the extreme left who will stop at nothing to create a society like they imagined communism would be.

    Now it's a dirty word. usually combined with "puke" "

    That's true also, the republicans and conservatives have been taken over by the extreme religious right. Both parties are corrupt and far removed from their original ideals. It's time for a Libertarian party of moderates who strongly support the bill of rights.
     
  18. djpk69

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    Well said Cheap_shot.Way too many people that think only "their party will solve everything".or "that party will take our guns" ...which HASN'T AND WILL NEVER HAPPEN.Let me hear from 1 poster who would let any govenment take their gun away.Not me....not any of my friends.
     
  19. smartass

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    I always thought that liberal and puke were one word.
     
  20. Paladin

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    The one thing that is always a given,,is that liberals have selective memory, or, are just plain dishonest.

    "that party will take our guns ...which HASN'T AND WILL NEVER HAPPEN"


    Just exactly WHAT do you think happened in Morton Grove, Washington D.C. and to a different extent regarding purchases with the assault weapons ban????? Not allowed to own them,,what do you call that???

    Forget the selective memory,,you people are just plain dishonest. Period!!
     
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