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Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Barrelbulge(Fl), Jul 30, 2012.

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  1. Barrelbulge(Fl)

    Barrelbulge(Fl) Well-Known Member

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    Sound true to me since I believe everything I read on here. I wouldn`t put anything past these people . And after 4 birth certificates all different and none of them even folded ?? Like brand new !!!!!!! I think the reason this isn`t followed up by congress is it would embarass the hell out of the United States for letting it go so long .
  3. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    ljutic111, I think you are exactly right. None of them have the balls to point their finger, they know he is bogus and they don't want to lose face having to admit they've been conned. Personal embarassment is much more important than doing the right thing to their ego's. Mike.

    PS: It is bogus here is info from truth or fiction.



    Barack Obama's Social Security Number Actually Belonged to a Man Named Jean Paul Ludwig-Fiction!


    Summary of the eRumor:
    This is a forwarded email that says Barack Obama used a Social Security number that once belonged to Jean Paul Ludwig, who emigrated to the U.S. in 1924 and died in Hawaii. The email alleges that Obama got the number from his grandmother who worked in the Probate Office in the Honolulu Hawaii Courthouse where she would have access to the Social Security Numbers of deceased individuals.




    The Truth:
    According to federal records the Social Security number in question does not belong to Jean Paul Ludwig.


    The Social Security Death Index Interactive Search for Jean Paul Ludwig shows a different number than what is mentioned in the eRumor and that he died in 1981.

    Ludwig's date of death came after the date that Barack Obama registered for the draft so Obama's grandmother could not have gotten his social security number.


    Some Background

    In 2008, questions were raised about the citizenship of Barack Hussein Obama.

    Southern California attorney and Obama eligibility challenger, Dr. Orly Taitz, began an investigation on the Social Security number used by Obama for his Selective Service registration. The document from the Selective Service System confirming Obama's draft registration was posted on the Orly Taitz website along with a "Notice of Motion and Motion for Clarification." The motion says the form was obtained by a private investigator named Sankey. This document contains the same Social Security number mentioned in the eRumor and we believe it to be the source of the number in the eRumor.

    Taitz also posted a response from the Social Security Administration on her website that says that the number in question did not match the number in their records belonging to Barack Obama. The report also said that the number matches one issued to an unnamed deceased person.

    A spokesperson from the Selective Service System confirmed for TruthorFiction.com that the Social Security number and the draft registration number on the document did indeed belong to Barack Obama and they have no other Social Security numbers associated with his name.
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    Where he was born is the least of our problems with him
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