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Deer Hunting - 30 point doe

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by scott calhoun, Dec 5, 2011.

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  1. scott calhoun

    scott calhoun Well-Known Member

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    I'm not a hunter, but this item was in my hometown newspaper and I thought some might be interested. It's from southern Illinois, Edwards County.

    The info below the picture is from the newspaper.


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    A true “freak of nature” was taken west of West Salem during the second shotgun season over the weekend. Richard Lomas, a farm hand for George Knackmuhs, shot this 30 point doe on the late Richard Knackmuhs Farm. The deer, which features a non-typical rack, a drop antler still in velvet and no evidence of male genitalia, also does not appear to have ever given birth. Locals estimate the deer to be about four or five years old. (Photo Courtesy of Joe McNeeley)

    Scott
     
  2. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    Lesbian deer?
     
  3. chemist

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    any nuclear waste or superfund sites around?
     
  4. crusha

    crusha TS Member

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    It's the Elena Kagan of deer!
     
  5. grntitan

    grntitan Well-Known Member

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    I just wish they would quit killing all our small bucks here in Southern Illinois. That's small a 1 1/2 year old. :)
     
  6. Firewater

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    I want to see the cooter before I believe it.Mike
     
  7. 4EVRYOUNG

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    I have heard of these before, some where in my Dad's things I have an old newspaper clipping of a neighbor lady who was old as long as I could remember shot a doe with antlers, they we not that big must of been in the 60's when this happened.
    Jeff
     
  8. RickN

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    Name her Rosie.
     
  9. Jim Bradbury

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    On a recent trip to Cabelas in Lacey Washington the Washington State game department had a display set up. Mostly of items that they had taken from poachers. But there was also a table set up for measuring trophies as well. Part of the display was a very nice antlered doe. I do not remember the exact size. All I really remember is that I would of shot her in half a heartbeat if I had seen her in the field. There would of been no way of telling it was a doe until you went to field dress the animal. They had a card that had information pertaining to DNA evidence that the game department had done to prove it was a doe. It was a neat thing to see.
     
  10. Bvr Tail

    Bvr Tail Well-Known Member

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    Just a bit off-topic, but has anyone ever heard of a mature buck without antlers ever developing?

    Never have myself!

    Danny
     
  11. slayer

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    I shot a spikehorn in the U.P.[sorry, had to have some venison] back in the 80's that had the same indentical rack two years in a row. Almost no horns at all. Just barely a legal spike. It had been hanging around my in laws place for two plus years even though they didn't believe in deer feeding. i think the arrested antler development was because of some really hard winters at that time. Bill
     
  12. wolfram

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    There is something of a hick folklore around here wherein ranch hands will rope young deer and castrate the males. Those altered deer then grow into great big stags that have bigger antlers and bigger bodies than normal bucks because they don't deplete themselves so badly during the rut.

    So I guess if a few juiced up cowboys can alter a buck in this fashion then nature can probably produce a few gnetics oddities like the 30 point doe.
     
  13. Mohave60

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    A lot of small antlered bucks in the UP. Used to hunt around Felch, lots of deer all small, one for each hand.
     
  14. lwr_

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    She truly did have a "Nice Rack"!!
     
  15. bodybuilder

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    Slayer you shot a WV 11 pt so don't feel bad
     
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    We will call her "Chaz"
     
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    cool lady gaga !! beni
     
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    I've read other stories about antlered does - and I beleive someone in WV shot a huge typical 10 pt that turned out to be a doe a few years back (beleive I saw it in Bowhunters Magazine) - but if I reacll correctly it had never shed it's velvet. Something about hte lack of testosterone preventing the antlers from completely hardening???? All I know is that I wuld have flung an arrow her way in a second.
     
  19. Tripod

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    One time 20 years ago I shot what appeared to be a mature doe and when I went to field dress it and found normal male "junk". He had little buttons for antlers that were just as a yearling would have. A biologist told me that he probably had low testosterone levels and that some does have high levels. Obviously this one did.
     
  20. magnumshot

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    A trans-sexual deer?
    I saw a documentary recently that stated that if a bucks antler material lands on another part of the deer, like his face, that spot will grow antlers too. Maybe this doe was head-butting a rutting buck or a yearling sibling. They also said that if a buck was injured, his antlers will not grow as much the next couple years in leu of healing.
     
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