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Crossing the Canadian Border with Firearm

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Joe Potosky, Jul 1, 2013.

  1. Joe Potosky

    Joe Potosky Well-Known Member

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    This was discussed earlier this year, but have received a few inquires on attending shoots in Canada.

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    U.S. shooters will need a passport (driving or flying) or an enhanced drivers license (driving only) to re-enter the U.S.A. An enhanced drivers license is cheaper than a passport and issued by many of the border states.

    Firearm(s) need to be listed on U.S. Customs Form 4457 prior to departing the states.

    A temporary firearm permit from Canada is required. Cost is $25 (Canadian) per shooter, good for 60 days. The form is processed on day of crossing. Credit cards accepted. You can also purchase ammunition using this form.

    NO HANDGUNS!

    You can bring up to 1,500 rounds duty free for use at a recognized competition.

    A sporting clays shooter asked about bringing a golf cart into Canada. If no state registration, record on form 4457 (Confirmed with U.S. customs just last week) so you can re-enter the U.S. without any issues.

    Details can be found at this link if you need indepth information on crossing.

    http://www.losttarget.com/firearmcanada.html
     
  2. ljutic73

    ljutic73 Well-Known Member

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    NO HANDGUNS!!!!!.....seems like every month at least one US citizen travelling into Canada (usually headed for Alaska) gets caught in possession of a handgun at the Coutts, Alberta/Sweetgrass, MT border crossing on I-15. You'd think after all these years, word might have filtered down to these folks that you CANNOT bring handguns into Canada, but apparently it hasn't. Just so y'all know.

    Ron Burr
     
  3. FlaLagarto

    FlaLagarto Well-Known Member

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    Joe,

    A question ... You stated that ..

    " temporary firearm permit from Canada is required. Cost is $25 (Canadian) per shooter, good for 60 days"

    Is this permit purchased at the border?? Sorry, if this is a dumb question. I'm planning on attending a shoot so the information you posted is very helpful.

    Jerry B
     
  4. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

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  5. blackfoot

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    It's easy, go on the web to Canada customs firearms. Print off their import form, fill out completely(not complicated) DO NOT SIGN the form.

    When you cross into Canada tell them you are taking in the guns and you need to buy the license, park your car and go in and they will process the form and go to your car and inspect the serial #'s etc to the form. Sign form,Pay $25 and go on your way. IT is NOT a big deal!

    Also Print off a US customs declare form( you record the guns you are taking across),you present this when you come back into the US to the US customs- basically it shows you are bringing back what you took out.
     
  6. FlaLagarto

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    Blackfoot..

    THANK YOU.. very helpful!
     
  7. Joe Potosky

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    RE:

    Yes, on pre filling the form (don't sign), but you may not find it on the Canadian website. You may see a message (RCMP 5589 / CAFC 909) when you go to the RCMP site, to send them an email (or telephone) and they will send you an email attachement of the form. Something they started this year for who knows what reason!

    If you'd rather not go that route to obtain the form, I have hot linked a copy of the form to the web link provided. Or, you can wait until day of travel, but by prefilling out the form (don't sign it) it will be a big time saver.

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    RE: Also Print off a US customs declare form( you record the guns you are taking across),you present this when you come back into the US to the US customs- basically it shows you are bringing back what you took out.

    CORRRECTION (You left something out)

    This form must be SIGNED by U.S.Customs BEFORE you enter Canada. It does not have to be the day of crossing and does not expire unless unreadable. If you have an international airport nearby or whatever that has a customs office they can sign off on this form, if not, it will needed to be done at a U.S. crossing.

    A copy of this form is also hot linked on the link provided.

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    Also, if you don't want gas sticker shock. Top off your vehicle prior to entering Canada.

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    I've been in Canada three times in the last two weeks to shoot, if anyone has any questions feel free to contact me, but I think I got it pretty covered in the provided link.
     
  8. Baber

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    I crossed the Border about this time last years going to the Canadian Shoot in Vancouver. Had the form that Joe Potasky suggested. Went into Canadian Customs with the application and $25 Canadian. They took my car keys and the Gun Case Key and inspected the gun without me being around. Other than that I was on my way in about 30 minutes. Coming back south I just gave my passport and US Customs form to the guy at the border ans was gone in 5 minutes.

    Tom
     
  9. LDAddi

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    Those Canucks treat us like crap and yet they come to No. Calif. to shoot (no fees for us), but they buy all the booze they can haul and then breeze back across the border with hardly a stop. Also, if you want to know the cost of "free" socialized medicine, buy some booze or other "luxury" items in Canada, just like what was mentioned above about fuel. I prefer the USA...period! Don't forget how many draft dodgers they sheltered when we were getting our asses kicked in Viet Nam....notwithstanding our own politicos who wouldn't let us win that war. Screw Jane Fonda and John Kerry, traitors in their own country.

    I guess that's enough but that's the way I feel.

    Larry in Redding, CA
     
  10. blackfoot

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    It is NOT a BIG DEAL!

    Read what TBaber said - it is exactly what will happen. Did all this 5 days ago!
     
  11. BAD 303

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    From my experience hunting geese up there in the fall you are liable to get any end of the spectrum from their border agents. Azzholes seem to be most prevalent but there are a few nice ones. Do NOT lose or misplace your paperwork as it is just as important in order to get back into the states. Traveling across our northern border should be a good reminder to every US citizen what socialism looks like. I would not advise anyone to travel there and donate one penny to their sorry government but the hunting is superb.
     
  12. Shawn

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    Well it didn't take to long for this thread to take a turn.

    International travel is not for everyone. By all means stay at home.

    It's not like Mr Obama is trying to take your guns or socialize your health care.

    I enjoy my frequent trips south of the border. The majority of shooters I meet are always appreciative that Canadians make the effort to support their shoots.

    If you travel long enough you will discover border personnel run the spectrum no matter where you travel.

    Shoot often

    I am looking forward to the Grand American.

    I appreciate the effort Joe P makes to keep the shooters informed.

    Shawn
     
  13. Millwright

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    Hello,
    I am Canadian, and can say yes border crossings can be a pain going either way. I can also say our hunting and fishing is top notch, so why wouldn't you want to experience it? That being said I could careless who you (bad 303) tells not to come north, because the most careless and wasteful fisherman I have encountered sadly seem to have been from south of our border. I am not saying all are guilty but I on more then one occasion caught fellows at the cleaning station simply throwing away small perch (5-10) in the 4 inch range that simply could have been released to grow. All of that being said you are more then right about the socialist sorry government we have...but I think that's something we can agree is aggravating citizens of both sides of the border. I enjoy my visits to the US due to the great people I meet not the dysfunctional governing party.
     
  14. sharhope

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    My wife is Canadian and I lived there for 20 years.Canada supplies the majority of the USA's oil was extremely helpful in landing planes during 9 11 and committed its forces to Afghanistan.I live near the canadian border and very substantial sales tax gambling taxes etc flow to Wa state courtesy of canadians. The often quoted idea that Canada is some sort of socialist hellhole is nonsense.The PM remains one of Israel's closest allies.
     
  15. Joe Potosky

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    As said, visiting another country is not for everyone.

    Saying that, for those interested, a Passport or Enhanced driver's license is a must have for re-entering the USA. If not this year on planning a visit but next, time to think about obtaining your travel documents!

    Some great shooting north of the border; trap, skeet, sporting clays, FITASC, Olympic Bunker, and International Skeet.

    They have it all!

    The 2013 ICTSF World Sporting Championships (July 31-Aug 4th) is being held at the Galt club (west of Toronto) this year. A shame to be a sporting clays shooter and not have the proper travel documents in hand and not be able to attend. Twenty time world champion George Digweed will be attending. Should be one hell of a shoot!
     
  16. trapwife

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    We have crossed the border several times for clinics. Never had a problem when we had our paperwork ready for inspection. TIP: when checking in at the border, keep conversation to a minimum, show your papers and pay. Have an answer for any questions, I once saw a lady who was taking a horse across the border, she was asked how old the horse was, she didn't know. Instead of just giving them an answer (it really didn't matter if she was wrong by a year or two)she turned the situation into an international incident. They detained her, called a vet, etc. Once when we were coming back into the US, there was a terrible thunderstorm, they just waived us through, didn't even have to stop!
    It is a good idea to have a shoot program with you, or some proof of why you are bringing a gun into the country.
    NOTE: DO NOT TELL THEM YOU ARE COMING IN TO DO ANY KIND OF WORK (i.e. clinics, selling earplugs, etc) They get very touchy about Americans doing a job that could be done by a Canadian. We always say we are visiting friends and competing at a shoot.
     
  17. FlaLagarto

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    Karla... OMG, you lied to a government worker??? (shakinghead)
     
  18. Beretta687EELL

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    Jerry ... not lying, just don't offer extra information. Keep your answers simple and short. This is the case going in both directions. Know what paperwork you need and have it ready.

    Where are you going in Canada? Bill Malcolm