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Compulsory purse at Grand

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by nameisjoe, Apr 24, 2012.

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  1. nameisjoe

    nameisjoe TS Member

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    We have been recently informed by the ATA that the 100k purse is coming out of our daily fees. This of course makes the purse compulsory...or maybe not.

    If you don't want to donate to the big dogs purse you do not have to register targets with the ATA. I suppose sooner or later many would figure that out.

    Either way we have a choice....you can donate to the big dogs more by shooting often or not.

    If you don't register a lot of targets that hurts the ATA and the big dogs. If you have the money to shoot the 9 events and you have the money to donate you have a chance at least to get some of your monies back.

    My state is fortunate in that trapshooting would be better off without the ATA.

    Only a minority of the shooters attend the grand. (we had 5,000 before) It is your fault if you are giving the big dogs your money.

    Last week at my club I shot with several shooters that know they cannot compete with the better shooters and cannot afford the traveling. Little did they know they were donating to the big dog purse at the grand.

    We could blame this on our delegates. From what I hear the original fee was going to be $5 per day and they were happy have to get it down to 3. I doubt very many delegates thought they were going to be taking money from youth and handicapped shooters to give to the grand purse.

    As per press release this decision was made by the EC.

    I won't shoot many registered targets and I will find a way to support my club.

    You decide.
  2. running bear

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    Nameisjoe,

    I see you are out of your cave again. Forgot to take your meds again.

    Buck
  3. gdbabin

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    CYA


    Guy B.
  4. BIGDON

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    How many times are you going to run this drivel out.

    You know what you are saying is pure BS. Yet you just keep saying it.

    Don
  5. Calkidd

    Calkidd Well-Known Member

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    Troll alert, troll alert.
  6. hunter44

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    Joe, you should spend your time with practice.......until you can get your scores out of the 60's I sure wouldn't register any targets either. The reason you don't shoot registered trap is simply because you are too lazy to put in the time to get good enough!
  7. nameisjoe

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    BIGDON...

    Although you may have taken English as a foreign language maybe you could explain yourself and bring a fact or 2 to the thread.
  8. Calkidd

    Calkidd Well-Known Member

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    I know I brought some truth to the thread.
  9. nameisjoe

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    Don't feed trolls....
  10. Calkidd

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    Exactly. If everyone took that advice you would starve to death.
  11. nameisjoe

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    Cal...you don't even understand the thread.
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    Still laughing........

    Nobody I mean nobody believes a smidgon of the crap coming out of your mouth. I didn't think it possible, but you actually sound more like an idiot everytime you post. You were outed and now in a feable attempt to keep your head above water, you start another BS thread to account for the fact that you don't even shoot much registered trap but yet speak like you are the mouth of the whole upper Northeast. What a joke you have turned out to be. Not that there was any doubt that's what the truth was.
  13. nameisjoe

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    grn,

    We know you have never shot outside of Illinois and that this post is a threat to you. It obviously has very little to do with how much I shoot registered targets.

    This is about how much money the ATA plans to take from people that were not going to the grand and donating it to the big dog purse in Sparta. This will be the ATA's first compulsory purse.

    I get it grn....Illinois is home to you. Sparta needs the money or it will fall on its face.

    My offer still stands. If your mom ever says you are allowed to leave the state I will buy you a coffee and shoot for your shirt.

    See you at the Cardinal?
  14. Dr.Longshot

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    I would not call that $100,000 a compulsory purse, but it does seem odd you have to pay $100 for a lewis class on the total 900 targets to get any of the money.

    Just how many Lewis classes are there going to be?

    Possibly the $100,000 the ATA is adding to a certain Lewis Class which I suspect will be what I would call the 900 Bird Lewis Class on the total 900 Grand Week Targets. And to participate in this added money you must pay $100.

    If this added money is from ATA shooting venues that all shooters in all states contributed to in anyway in ATA funds from staqte shoots, sattelite grands, zone shoots. I feel personally a shooter is entitled to participate and recieve this added money at no expense to him/her.

    More clarification is needed just where this money is coming from and exacyly what Lewis Class it is going into.

    Gary Bryant
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  15. nameisjoe

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    One thing glaring about this scam is that the EC didnt announce this until they had collected most of the dues for the year.

    Why be upfront about anything?
  16. nameisjoe

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    Still waiting Don...
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    Joe, you should spend your time with practice.......until you can get your scores out of the 60's I sure wouldn't register any targets either. The reason you don't shoot registered trap is simply because you are too lazy to put in the time to get good enough!
  18. nameisjoe

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    Hunter,

    Lets shoot for $200 at the Cardinal. Grn has been offered the same challenge.

    That would be far better than taking money from some youths shooting at a different venue and putting it our pockets. We will be shooting for our own monies.

    We wouldn't be asking the ATA to collect fees from a shooter with a physical disability.

    But, there will be a compulsory fee. $200 up front.
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    see above link


    AMATEUR TRAPSHOOTING ASSOCIATION
    Noon – April 20, 2012
    1105 East Broadway Street
    PO Box 519
    Sparta, Illinois 62286
    Press Release
    NEWS FROM THE ATA EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
    ATA GRAND 900 LEWIS
    SAN ANTONIO, TX, APRIL 11, 2012: The ATA Executive Committee
    has announced that an additional $100,000 in added money will be
    provided by the Association at this year’s 2012 Grand American
    World Trapshooting Championship, Sparta Illinois. The decision
    was made at the just completed spring meetings of the ATA
    Executive Committee during the Southwestern Satellite Grand
    American at the National Shooting Complex, San Antonio Texas.
    The addition of the funds to the championship tournament was
    made to compliment the $350,000 in added money already in place,
    donated by Bill and Lee Ann Martin for Championship week events
    at the Grand American. The ATA added money will feature a Lewis
    option with an entry fee of $100 offered on the cumulative total
    of events of 7 through 14 (Friday-Saturday-Sunday) of
    preliminary week. $50,000 will be added by the ATA to the total
    entries in this purse on the total of 900 targets, and will be
    paid back in 5 Lewis divisions, split 50-30-20% (15 separate
    scores will win). The remaining $50,000 added by the ATA will
    be added to the Lewis option purses for the 8 events scheduled
    for August 10-12:
    $5,000 will be added to Friday’s Michelob Lite Singles
    $8,000 will be added to Friday’s Budweiser Handicap
    $5,000 will be added to Friday’s Bud Light Doubles
    $6,000 will be added to Saturday-Sunday’s NRA Singles
    $8,000 will be added to Saturday’s Krieghoff 100 Handicap
    $5,000 will be added to Saturday’s RIO Ammo Doubles
    $8,000 will be added to Sunday’s Blaser Handicap
    $5,000 will be added to Sunday’s Wenig Doubles
    Each Lewis option on these events will be divided 5 divisions,
    60-40% each division.
    ATA STATE/PROVINCAL ADDED MONEY & BELT BUCKLES
    In an effort to enhance participation at 2013 state and
    provincial championships, the Executive Committee determined
    that the ATA would commit $500 to each state and province to be
    given to the champion of the handicap event immediately prior to
    the state/provincial handicap event. In addition to the added
    money, the champion will receive an engraved Sterling Silver
    Belt Buckle furnished by the ATA. All state/provincial belt
    buckle winners will be eligible to compete in the President’s
    Handicap at the 2013 Grand American for an additional $1,000 and
    another Sterling Silver belt buckle.
    AIM CHAMPIONSHIP PLANS
    The Grand American AIM Championship will feature not only the
    200 target AIM National Youth Championship event (August 6-7),
    but also a shooting “carnival” on August 4-6. Carnival events
    will include a 50 target handicap event; a 50 target doubles
    event; Parent/Coach Singles event; International (wobble) event;
    Ruger Rifle Challenge event; NRA 3-gun tactical event; “Top
    Shot” event; Annie Oakley Challenge event and a Snooker Shoot
    Out event. Further, the evenings will include food and drink
    for all competitors, coaches and parents and a shooting
    exhibition. The format, dates and additional events are a vast
    departure for the AIM Championship events of the past and are
    geared toward providing more direct attention to the young
    shooters of the sport.
    ATA OFFICE MOVE
    The new ATA National Headquarters will soon be located at Sparta
    Illinois. New staff members begin orientation and training on
    April 19 at the Sparta location for a period of several weeks.
    Plans are to be moved out of the original Vandalia location by
    June 1. After the move, all aspects of the ATA’s business will
    be handled at the Sparta, Illinois location.
  20. ebsurveyor

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    Looks like money will be equally divided to the Lewis Classes. Just as must for the bottom scores as the top scores.
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