1. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.
    Dismiss Notice

comments on my trap loads tonight

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by hoot619, Apr 9, 2012.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. hoot619

    hoot619 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    679
    using Nobel primers rem shells Claydot with CB 1100-12 12 ga. 1 oz. 3 boxes with 15.7 claydot and 1 at 17.6. Both loads sounded weak at times , it was cold 46 - 47 degrees with strong wind. I still have plenty of the primers left 4600 or better. Any suggestions -Jack powder up 16.5 and live with it til warm weather? One good think I won't be shooting again for 3 weeks or so. The other
    knee to be replaced Wed AM. Ken U
     
  2. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    10,521
    Location:
    Idaho
    I would start by throwing out the Nobels
     
  3. Lovemy99

    Lovemy99 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 13, 2012
    Messages:
    118
    I use those exact same components, except I run 18.0gr. of Claydot. The loads work great and smash the crap out of targets. Recoil is no problem in my BT-99 and I shoot this load for singles and handicaps.

    Try adding a small amount of wad pressure, say 20# or so. Not much, but enough to insure that the wad is firm against the powder. I had the "weak sounding" problem when I first started using this load. Added a little wad seating pressure and it totally went away. I shot this load over the winter too and had no issues after adding the wad pressure.
     
  4. hoot619

    hoot619 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    679
    Love my 99 Thanks, I will be trying that , I sure can't afford to pitch them. Ken U
     
  5. creek

    creek Member

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2007
    Messages:
    276
    Location:
    New Bern. NC
    It definately is not the Nobelsport primers. I have used Nobles well into 100,000+; I have yet had a dud, or even a poor sounding load with them. I use Down Range wads, Promo 17.5, in all the Remington hulls, and AA's, old and new, in hot and cold weather.
    I would certainly look at the wad being your problem.

    John (Creek)
     
  6. Ahab

    Ahab Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,650
    Your problem is that you are not using enough powder!

    Check the Alliant Powder website under Reloader's Guide ... the lightest load listed is for ClayDot is 17.5 grains.
     
  7. knutershooter

    knutershooter Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    172
    Just an FYI I bought some noble sport primers last year and about 5 per hundred were duds. If you look at the top were the little hole is suposed to be sealed they were not sealed. Very light sounding and no power. I took them back to the place I bought them from and they said the manufacturer is a aware of an isue with certain production runs. So look at them when you put them in the tray and if you see any that are not sealed I would throw them out or return them. Good luck.
     
  8. hoot619

    hoot619 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    679
    I did notice some were not sealed but thought they would be ok. That is my

    Finnish Genius thinking for you. But all went off today. Ken
     
  9. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    5,722
    There are very limited CLAY DOT loadings in the newest Alliant Reloaders Guide.

    Win AA Hull 1 Oz Waa12SL & DRXL-1 and JammerXL-1 17.2 Grs Clay Dot and 17.4 w/9460 psi/9280psi

    Rem Hull 17.5 grs CB4100-12B=6800psi
    "" "" 17.5 TG-12 & DRRT12=7930
    "" "" 16.5 WAA12SL=8240psi
    "" "" 17.0 WAA12SL=7860 Win Primer
    "" "" 17.6 TGT12 & DRRT12=7590psi Win Primer

    Your Nobel Primer is good w/those loads, Wad Seating Pressures will be critical w/operating pressures being that low.

    The best performing hull is the AA hull as pressures are higher and you get a better burn of the powder.

    I have the 2012 Alliant Reloading Manual I got 2 days ago.

    Gary Bryant
    Dr.longshot
     
  10. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    5,722
    Promo is a better choice and about $20.00 per #8 lb container cheaper. It is my powder of choice, and I have loaded about 6-8 Eight Pound Containers of it.

    Gary Bryant
    Dr.longshot
     
  11. BigM-Perazzi

    BigM-Perazzi Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    8,542
    Location:
    HELL, MICHIGAN
    15.7 claydot is waaaaaay low. Especially for cold weather.

    Probably in the 17's is what you need...
     
  12. Border Bandit

    Border Bandit Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 27, 2008
    Messages:
    1,711
    Location:
    Fairfield PA
    Good luck with the knee surgery, Ken. Hope you're up and able to shoot soon, pain free. BTW, you might want to take a look at Alliant's (fairly) new Extra Light, with Downrange's (fairly) new 1oz purple Windjammers.

    best...mike
     
  13. oletymer

    oletymer Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    818
    Your loads are so weak you might as well use a BB gun.
     
  14. hoot619

    hoot619 Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    679
    Oletimer, thanks alot ; That is the only damn thing they didn't say. LOL
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.